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fightingquaker13

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2011, 11:38:33 AM »
A Pediatrician at $109,816.00 a year, I've got to agree with you. That is low man on the totem pole. How can the guy knocking the kid out make 24K a year more then the guy doing the surgery on him? Or the guy doing the knee replacement make the same?
The payscale reflects priorities. The Army needs more surgeons than pediatricins. Plus its also a reflection of the length of residency, it takes longer in some fields than others. Its balanced out by the experience you'll get as well. I would think that a trauma surgeon with MASH experience and a good record will go to the head of the line at any hospital in the country.Likewise a shrink who's been treating PTSD for 8 years would seem to have a leg up over someone who's just read about it. So they can make less now, but know they'll make more when their tour is up.
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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2011, 11:50:36 AM »
A Pediatrician at $109,816.00 a year, I've got to agree with you. That is low man on the totem pole. How can the guy knocking the kid out make 24K a year more then the guy doing the surgery on him? Or the guy doing the knee replacement make the same?

It boils down to specialty.  I don't know where you got that information but all officers make the same base pay.  It's based on rank and time in service.  Then, they add on a premium for medical/dental services and an addition 20-40K annually for specialty services like surgery, orthopedics, etc....  On top of that, they get an allowance for quarters, food, separation pay, overseas duty pay, hazardous duty pay, sea pay (Navy/Marines), combat pay, etc...

It's almost impossible to find two Officers that make exactly the same final annual salary.  There are too many variables.

http://www.military.com/benefits/content/military-pay/charts/historical-military-pay-rates.html

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2011, 12:45:35 PM »
http://www.chacha.com/question/how-much-does-an-aircraft-carrier-captain-make

According to this, an aircraft carrier Captain earns a paltry $7,290.00 per month, or $87,480 a year. That's ridiculous considering his responsibility. Not to mention he's in control of enough firepower to destroy most nations. A Fed EX wide body Captain earns $14,874 a month in comparison, or $178,488.00 a year. The military pays $h!t alright.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_money_does_an_airline_pilot_earn

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2011, 12:53:42 PM »
The miltry pays very well now, not like it use to be.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2011, 01:34:04 PM »
The miltry pays very well now, not like it use to be.


Yeah...the way it used to be.

In basic as an E-1 I was earning $87.90/mo. gross.  Tale home was $69/mo....if you want to call the barracks home.

When I got out as an E-5 I was making $278.70/mo. gross.  Don't recall take home.

That is a 317% increase.  Talk about rocket like advancement......

I remember in HS thinking I'd be happy when I could get a job making $1000.00 a month...

The cost of a Corvette back then was $4000 and gas was $.35/gal.







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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2011, 01:46:56 PM »
when my grandfather was drafted for korea he made a waping $22/month.  he was making that a day as a union painter.

now if you have a 4 year degree in nose picking you start at 70ish a year after OTS.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2011, 03:30:02 PM »
The military pays very well now, not like it use to be.

Not so fast there kid!  An E1 makes 1491 bucks a month in 2011.  That's barely over minimum wage.

If you're willing to stick it out for twenty or thirty years and get every available advancement, which ain't that hard, after about ten years you'll be doing OK but you ain't going to be driving a Mercedes!

My first week back in the world, working at GM, I made 500 bucks a week.  My last week in the Navy, Sept 79 I made a little over 140 bucks.

I stand by my statement that the Military still pays like shit!

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2011, 03:36:05 PM »
I made more in a week at GM than I made in a month in the army as an E-4.
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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2011, 03:38:50 PM »
http://www.chacha.com/question/how-much-does-an-aircraft-carrier-captain-make

According to this, an aircraft carrier Captain earns a paltry $7,290.00 per month, or $87,480 a year. That's ridiculous considering his responsibility. Not to mention he's in control of enough firepower to destroy most nations. A Fed EX wide body Captain earns $14,874 a month in comparison, or $178,488.00 a year. The military pays $h!t alright.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_money_does_an_airline_pilot_earn

Whomever quoted that number wasn't taking "time in service" or "time at rank" into consideration.  Consider an Annapolis grad comes out and O-1, to make O-6 will take twenty five years (at least) to make Captain (O-6) than he's making way north of 10K a month, probably more.  Use the link I provided and go to 0-6 over 24 years and it will give you a "base", then add all the rest.  Still seems small for the job requirement but that's how it works.  

Another thing, you won't find one Carrier in the fleet that's Captained by a "Captain", that's at least an Fleet Admiral billet.  Anyone that commands a Naval vessel is considered a "Captain" regardless of his/her actual rank!

I have a buddy that retired an O-6, over 34 years and he's doing nearly 90K in retirement!  His wife retired last year at O-6 as well.  He's about a year older than I and Kathy is younger.

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Re: Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2011, 03:39:43 PM »
I made more in a week at GM than I made in a month in the army as an E-4.

Me too Frank!  My gig only lasted 88 days though.  Got laid off the day before Christmas, 1979!

 

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