Chinese Hand Grenade Drill,....FAIL

[Big Frank]

Me too Frank!  My gig only lasted 88 days though.  Got laid off the day before Christmas, 1979!

It sucks that they didn't let you get 90 days in and permanantly hired. 

[Timothy]

It sucks that they didn't let you get 90 days in and permanantly hired. 

Them's the brakes!  I started bar-tending after that, the money was way better and the ever changing line of waitresses made life very, very interesting!

 

[billt]

Whomever quoted that number wasn't taking "time in service" or "time at rank" into consideration.  Consider an Annapolis grad comes out and O-1, to make O-6 will take twenty five years (at least) to make Captain (O-6) than he's making way north of 10K a month, probably more.  Use the link I provided and go to 0-6 over 24 years and it will give you a "base", then add all the rest.  Still seems small for the job requirement but that's how it works.  

Another thing, you won't find one Carrier in the fleet that's Captained by a "Captain", that's at least an Fleet Admiral billet.  Anyone that commands a Naval vessel is considered a "Captain" regardless of his/her actual rank!

I have a buddy that retired an O-6, over 34 years and he's doing nearly 90K in retirement!  His wife retired last year at O-6 as well.  He's about a year older than I and Kathy is younger.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_annual_salary_of_a_4-star_general_in_the_US_Army

The top pay of a 4 Star General in the US Army is just $18,765.59 / month, or $225,187.08 a year. That's crap to run the whole Iraqi or Afghan Campaign. About the same as an wide body airline Captain with less service. How much does the average do nothing Congressman get in retirement for the same amount of service?

[Timothy]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_annual_salary_of_a_4-star_general_in_the_US_Army

The top pay of a 4 Star General in the US Army is just $18,765.59 / month, or $225,187.08 a year. That's crap to run the whole Iraqi or Afghan Campaign. About the same as an wide body airline Captain with less service. How much does the average do nothing Congressman get in retirement for the same amount of service?

I'm not arguing with you Bill!  We agree!

Just don't trust everything you read on the web and certainly not wikipedia.  Do the math from the link I provided.  That's direct from the .gov list for historical pay grades in the military.

These people are not doing this to get rich!  They all know they will make far more money in the private sector as did I back in the day!  That's why I got out among other things. 

I found that most of the officers I worked with at the time were flippin' morons!  Things have changed but it still remains that it's nearly impossible to get fired and them that kiss the most ass get promoted!

[TAB]

Not so fast there kid!  An E1 makes 1491 bucks a month in 2011.  That's barely over minimum wage.

If you're willing to stick it out for twenty or thirty years and get every available advancement, which ain't that hard, after about ten years you'll be doing OK but you ain't going to be driving a Mercedes!

My first week back in the world, working at GM, I made 500 bucks a week.  My last week in the Navy, Sept 79 I made a little over 140 bucks.

I stand by my statement that the Military still pays like shit!

But all your exps are PAID!  thats like making 3 or 4 times that.  No housing,  no untilitys, no food, no medical, no dental, no nothing.

for a young person, thats alot of cash.

so lets do some math.

rent $500, untilitys $50, food $200, medical ins $300, dental ins $50.  that right there is a extra 1100 a month and trust me thats on the low side of things. Don't forget your uncle comes and takes a chunk as well, so that 1100 is more like 1600.


So let me ask you this, what other no skill, no exp, no education job can you start at 36000 a year?


Yeah, thats what I though, there isn't one.  I won't even start on the bennies after your service.  Nor will I get to the beenies during service.  They can be 30k+ just for school alone, not to mention the other VA bennies and the "points" you will get on job apps.

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[Timothy]

But all your exps are PAID!  thats like making 3 or 4 times that.  No housing,  no untilitys, no food, no medical, no dental, no nothing.

for a young person, thats alot of cash.  

so lets do some math.

I'm talking ENLISTED personnel TAB, not officers.  And, your assuming that there is base housing available which goes away if you're not stationed on a major military installation.  The poor saps in Iraq, Afghanistan and any number of other shit holes lose their quarters while in country!  Their families have to move out of base housing and pay rent like everyone else!

Remember, unless you're married and qualify, there is no base housing available for lower enlisted ranks.  You're generally going to wait for it to become available.  One of my buddies qualified for welfare as an E-5.

I still stand by my statement that enlisted grunts are paid like shit, working for a bunch of unqualified officers who couldn't find their own ass without a flashlight who are making two or three times the money!

[Timothy]

The top pay of a 4 Star General in the US Army is just $18,765.59 / month, or $225,187.08 a year. That's crap to run the whole Iraqi or Afghan Campaign. About the same as an wide body airline Captain with less service. How much does the average do nothing Congressman get in retirement for the same amount of service?

I just thought of this...Barrack Obama makes $400,000.00 per year plus expenses and benefits for the rest of his life!  We all agree that he's completely unqualified to be President, let alone have the ability to end mankind as we know it!

It's about the same thing with these Admirals and Generals!

[tombogan03884]

I must say I'm impressed, a video of a Chinaman screwing up a grenade toss turns into 4 pages on military pay.
That's drift you can believe in ! 

[Timothy]

I must say I'm impressed, a video of a Chinaman screwing up a grenade toss turns into 4 pages on military pay.
That's drift you can believe in !  

C'mon Tom!  Who really gives a crap if some Chinaman blows his ass to kingdom come?  There's about 2 billion left to clean up the mess!

 

[tombogan03884]

But it was funny to watch the Sgt body slam him into the trench