"Leaner" US military

[twyacht]

Any doubt that BHO is Carter v2.0?

The Nation Building crap has to stop...When we leave Afghanistan, I give it less than a year to return to pre war days. Taliban unopposed, any gov't will be corrupt, Warlords ruling regions as they always have, and offering terrorist training camp vacation packages.

The poppy fields will be delightful in Spring.

what does he say about the drug war?

LEGALIZE ALL OF IT, NOW!




 

[tombogan03884]

Notice there's not a suicide vest in sight ?


Rastus, Interesting thought, and you could have used our Southern border as an example.
It is a historical fact that through out human history various factors have caused mass migrations, usually East to West.
In ancient times it was the Huns being driven East to clash with, and eventually over run the Romans.
The Europeans flooding into the "New World" where they pushed the Indians out.
However that was nothing new here, they had been pushing each other around for centuries.

This thread is no argument, it isn't even a debate.
It's just a discussion of possibilities based on the trends we are seeing .

[Solus]

Well, sounds like this is beginning to examine the rewards of a well developed space exploration program. 

Lots of resources spinning around out there that no one has tapped yet.

[tombogan03884]

The military pushed the space program in every country to have one.
Were they curious ?
Seeking new frontiers ?
Hell no, they were following ancient military wisdom.
Seize the high ground.

[Solus]

The military pushed the space program in every country to have one.
Were they curious ?
Seeking new frontiers ?
Hell no, they were following ancient military wisdom.
Seize the high ground.

Reminds me of the "rebels" in Heinlein's The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, dropping rocks on the enemy below them.

Something started by Ooog and his clan.

[Sponsor]

[Rastus]

Notice there's not a suicide vest in sight ? Sure did....
Rastus, Interesting thought, and you could have used our Southern border as an example.
It is a historical fact that through out human history various factors have caused mass migrations, usually East to West.
...........

The thing that had me thinking that way, oddly enough, was the extermination of one indian tribe by another.  Specifically I was thinking of the Tangipahoa indians who were slaughtered when they moved to the banks of the Mississippi River.  This area where I grew up is most decidely not of "cajun" background but of indian like the Choctaw, Huma, Houma, Natalbany, Manchac, etc.  I have enough Choctaw to get an indian card but dad taught me to make it on my own.  However, depending on how the national health care thing falls I may enroll just to escape federal death health insurance.

So far as military offensive/defensive doctrine, the aim and goal to completely eliminate a population does not seem to be a modern concept to me...except for some middle eastern nations stated goals.  So, it might be good to examine their long term planning/goals.

[fightingquaker13]

Rastus
I know you won't generally listen to my advice, but make an  exception here. If you're legitimately entitled to that card, get it, even if you never use it. Its one more member of the tribe as far as the feds are concerned. You might not need the money or benefits, but twenty years from now some deserving tribe member might, and money is allocated by numbers. As far as I'm concerned, tribal payments aren't a handout. Depending on your POV they are either reparations or payment for the land. To my mind taking that money isn't like taking a welfare check. Its like taking Social Security, only in this case it was your great grand dad that payed in. Just my .02.
FQ13

[Rastus]

Rastus
I know you won't generally listen to my advice, but make an  exception here. ...........
Just my .02.
FQ13

I’ll respond because this may highlight a basic difference between us.  My concern is retaining the ability to access healthcare on my own by avoiding the government health program; not to look for a handout.  I’m driven to provide for my own as I can and to ensure their health and well being.  Over the last 20 years I’m out over $250k on reasonable and customary, etc. beyond insurance; my wife being on a heart transplant list for 10 years and after losing one nearly losing two of my other children when they 2 or less. 

It is enslavement to be “entitled” and forced into a government program.  I have not looked for handouts from the government.  I set about the business of being a man and sacrificing what need to be sacrificed to provide for my family in a fair and honest manner without stealing from other people.  I also give freely to honest people who are in bad situation who need help.

If you would be less concerned about taking an absurd offense about the possibility of someone being denied a handout as well as other assorted condescending liberal foolishness you may find your life more worthwhile. 

Are you voting for Obama again?  A question you need not respond to and my own 0.02.

[Tyler Durden]

frick!

I'd take that card in a heartbeat.

[fightingquaker13]

I’ll respond because this may highlight a basic difference between us.  My concern is retaining the ability to access healthcare on my own by avoiding the government health program; not to look for a handout.  I’m driven to provide for my own as I can and to ensure their health and well being.  Over the last 20 years I’m out over $250k on reasonable and customary, etc. beyond insurance; my wife being on a heart transplant list for 10 years and after losing one nearly losing two of my other children when they 2 or less. 

It is enslavement to be “entitled” and forced into a government program.  I have not looked for handouts from the government.  I set about the business of being a man and sacrificing what need to be sacrificed to provide for my family in a fair and honest manner without stealing from other people.  I also give freely to honest people who are in bad situation who need help.

If you would be less concerned about taking an absurd offense about the possibility of someone being denied a handout as well as other assorted condescending liberal foolishness you may find your life more worthwhile. 

Are you voting for Obama again?  A question you need not respond to and my own 0.02.

FWIW Rastus
You are stealing from me if you can work but don't, and expect me to pay for you. You aren't stealing when your land was taken and a treaty was made which entitles you to certain benefits. Thats not a handout, its not theft, its payment of a debt. Those are two wholly different animals.
FQ13