Newt Hits Romney On Gun Tax, And Has A Point

[Timothy]

Not a fan of Romney and not taking up for him.  I'm just trying to make sense of this thread.  I'm basing my response off of Tim and TW's posts.

Many of you seem to think that there is a separate, extra $100 payed as a tax or some other form of payment to purchase or own a gun.  What I got out of this is that the cost of the pistol permit was raised to $100 and then subsequently extended to six years to help make up for the extra cost.  The price went up a little, but, at $16.66 a year, they pay $1.66 more a year than I do.

Correct!

CT is 100 bucks for four (4) years!  With some other restrictions that we don't have here!

[BAC]

No fee to buy a gun.  The only fee is your CCW license of 100 bucks for 6 years.  No fee to run an NICS check either.  People we need to keep the facts straight here.  Massachusetts, with the exception of the registration part of the equation, ain't much different than anywhere else.  In fact, it's still better than MD, NY, NJ, IL, WI and CA!

How difficult is it to get CCW license in MA?  I'm gathering by your post that you don't need any kind of firearms owner card like some other states (NJ?), but you do have to register your purchase with the state?  Is that true for handguns and long guns?  One more question:  If she weighs the same as duck, she's made of wood, and therefore...?

[Timothy]

How difficult is it to get CCW license in MA?  I'm gathering by your post that you don't need any kind of firearms owner card like some other states (NJ?), but you do have to register your purchase with the state?  Is that true for handguns and long guns?  One more question:  If she weighs the same as duck, she's made of wood, and therefore...?

The minimum requirements are a four hour safety course that does not require live fire.  An NRA Basic Pistol would qualify but is NOT required.  You then get the paperwork from your local PD and pay the 100 bucks, take fingerprints and photo.  They have 40 days to approve or give you reason for denial.  If denied, you have a state arbitration board you can fight through.  The approval is at the discretion of your local PD but denial is regulated by the state.  It's my understanding that at least 40 bucks stays with the local PD.

After that you can buy what ever is on the roster with no waiting period.  Just the basic NICS and paperwork for sale.  Private sale is allowed as long as the guns are on the roster.  Registration is required for all handguns and long guns with the exception of antique firearms of the muzzleloading variety.

There are three basic licenses.

FID - Firearms ID for 18-21 years old for long guns for hunting purposes.
LTC-B - Handgun/rifle without hi-capacity magazines but no concealed carry.  Max 5 round DETACHABLE magazines.
LTC-A - Handgun or rifle with hi-capacity magazines WITH concealed handgun carry for all lawful purposes.  Max 10 round DETACHABLE magazines or greater if the magazine was manufactured prior to 1994.

I carry a Sig P228 with 13 round mags on loan from my daughter.

My local PD will not issue a LTC-B because of the restrictions.  He will automatically upgrade it to a LTC-A.

Mine took about 10 days total after applying!

[BAC]

Still really glad I live in PA!

[twyacht]

Still got a problem with that whole "register" verbage....Either way,.give a Political body a chance to raise the "cost" of something, and they will...

Beatles "taxman" song comes to mind....

[Sponsor]

[Timothy]

Still got a problem with that whole "register" verbage....Either way,.give a Political body a chance to raise the "cost" of something, and they will...

I don't like either but it's the law for worse or for worse!  I've done a lot of research on how and why we got to where we are today!  It was not all Willards doing!  The State House is 90% socialist and the 10% that are considered GOP are weak kneed dimwits.  Look at Scott Brown!

I've spoken with the folks at the Bureau and they're decent folks.  When I moved back after moving to CT, I called them and explained that my LTC was still valid for two more years and wondered if I had to go back through all the crap again?  The Bureau folks told me to do my change of address paperwork and they would honor the license after I regained my residency status!

Done deal!  How many other states is that allowed?

I honestly don't believe that with the NICS there isn't a list of handgun registrations somewhere from every state in the Union!  Do you actually believe what the Gubmint says anymore?

My tinfoil hat is here somewhere!  

[usmcdadx2]

Just one nitpick, please take WI out of your list of "better than" states, now that we can finally get CCW the only significant thing you had better than us is off the table.

Training Requirement- no more severe than yours NRA Basic or Hunter's Safety does the job.
$50 for 5 years still beats $100 for 6
Local PD isn't involved so the local demogogue can't add his/her slant to the process
No fingerprints/no photos
No "approved" roster of firearms
No registration of firearms(beyond FFL/NICS requirement)

[tombogan03884]

NH, just across the State line from Ma, much lower crime.
Requirements for purchase - Money.
Requirements for CCW       - One page form,3 references, up to 14 day wait , $10 for 4 years.
Restrictions                      - Federal only.

[Timothy]

Just one nitpick, please take WI out of your list of "better than" states, now that we can finally get CCW the only significant thing you had better than us is off the table.

Training Requirement- no more severe than yours NRA Basic or Hunter's Safety does the job.
$50 for 5 years still beats $100 for 6
Local PD isn't involved so the local demogogue can't add his/her slant to the process
No fingerprints/no photos
No "approved" roster of firearms
No registration of firearms(beyond FFL/NICS requirement)

Corrected!  Thanks for the reminder!  My Scandinavian relatives there will forgive me!

 

I will add that CT has become a royal pain in the butt to crawl through the process and some of their "assault" weapons restrictions are actually worse than current MA law.  Even shotguns have some rather ridiculous sanctions.

[seeker_two]

Considering what we were faced with from the State Legislature, I'll gladly pay the 100 bucks...

How much are you willing to gladly pay to speak freely?.....vote?.....have legal counsel at your criminal trial?.....

Any governor who would willingly support charging a fee in order to "permit" you to practice a Constitutionally-guaranteed right is not someone I want to see in the Oval Office....and I put Perry in this same category.....