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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2007, 06:55:27 PM »
DR, I'm going to be in the Tidewater area the first part of June, I've got plans already set so I can't take your class but I'm wondering if you allow visitors during the week at your facility, I might want to take your class the next time I come out to see my grandkids...

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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 09:03:01 PM »
It's something called "Down Range" performance...

In my camp we are serious shooters and believe that ONLY performance counts. That said, myself and my certified Instructors have won following major shooting titles using the FIST-FIRE techniques:

This data proves that the FIST-FIRE shooting methods work "as good or better" than anything Top Pro Shooters are using today. Yet it blends seemlessly with modern Mixed Martial Arts fighting techniques. This is why it's being endorsed by MMA experts. 8)

Further, we have tested FIST-FIRE in 'Force on Force' scenarios where SIMUNUTIONS were used on resisiting opponents. And I'm not talking about a few thousand rounds, I'm talking hundreds of thousands...  :o

Bottom Line: My camp is made up of Pro Shooters and Mixed Martial Artists who only care about one thing: Finding out "What works and what doesn't" in regards to Tactical Shooting techniques. So, if you can show us a better way to shoot a handgun, we're all for it.

Until that day...

D.R. Middlebrooks - CEO
Tactical Shooting Academy
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That is an impressive list of acheivements. I applaud you and your pupils for their accomplishments, but I am not asking for numbers. I am asking about mechanics.

I take shooting seriously, and intend upon getting as much training as my measley little salary can afford to after feeding two kids. I too belive in performance, because when the fit hits the shan, we are left having to employ the methods in which we train. I am interested in all forms and disciplines of handgunmanship, and for now I can only practice what I have seen, read and absorbed from others. The two videos that are on DRTV and some others that I found on the net are impressive, but at the same time delves not one bit upon principles and technique, simply that it can be done. I am not arguing that point.

HTH combat is also another arena that I have some amount of interest in, although I am getting to old and fat to go hands on with anyone for any length of time, I would like to know that I have the tools to effectively extricate myself from the situation as neatly as possible.

I have never hinted that I have a better way to do anything, let alone an entire shooting style.

Your "Bottom Line" says what I am looking for myself: to find out "What works and what doesn't". So my question again is: What sets your method apart from the "Old School" as you put it?  Can you simply answer that question without the chiding tone? If you can't I will understand. I will just as easily explore other venues and encourage others that I speak with to do the same.

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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2007, 10:27:27 PM »
I'm sold. Ever plan on bringing your training to Texas? it would be hard for me to get out of the house for a week out of state.

I could even train in AZ...

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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2007, 07:34:56 AM »
DR, I'm going to be in the Tidewater area the first part of June, I've got plans already set so I can't take your class but I'm wondering if you allow visitors during the week at your facility, I might want to take your class the next time I come out to see my grandkids...

We're open to the public by appointment only. So, just call first and we'll set up a time: 757-357-9881  8)

By the way, we've got our first grand chid coming in May!  :)

Take care,

D.R.

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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2007, 07:44:33 AM »
I'm sold. Ever plan on bringing your training to Texas? it would be hard for me to get out of the house for a week out of state.

I could even train in AZ...

I do need to make a trip to Phoenix, lot's of interest there. Just got to find the time... :-\

But I willl be in South Western Colorado July 28-30. Montrose is one of the most beautiful places to be that time of year (too hot anywhere esle). MMA expert Paul Sharp ( www.ISRMatrix.org ) & Pro Shooter Rick Simes will be there to re-certify as Fist-Fire Instructors.  8)

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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2007, 08:37:49 AM »

Can you simply answer that question without the chiding tone? If you can't I will understand. I will just as easily explore other venues and encourage others that I speak with to do the same.

You'll see more on next weeks episode of DR TV... 8)

Cheers,

D.R. Middlebrooks - CEO
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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2007, 10:18:47 PM »
I do need to make a trip to Phoenix, lot's of interest there. Just got to find the time... :-\

But I willl be in South Western Colorado July 28-30. Montrose is one of the most beautiful places to be that time of year (too hot anywhere esle). MMA expert Paul Sharp ( www.ISRMatrix.org ) & Pro Shooter Rick Simes will be there to re-certify as Fist-Fire Instructors.  8)

D.R.

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Hurry up on your trip to Phoenix... oh and make a trip to Houston while you are at it.

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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2007, 10:08:32 AM »
Try the little book SHOOTING TO LIVE from Capt W.E. Fairbanks and Capt. E.A. Sykes.  You can sit down and read it and understand it in about an hour.  I almost couldn't bielive and simple take on armed combat.  But then these guys have been in a few situations.

I try to lean towards KISS.  I've used the above lessons in SHOOT TO LIVE and taught myself to point shoot.  I'm in the process of getting the sights replaced off of my G37 with just inserts to make a smooth top.

I also shoot alot and with a 22lr AA conversion kit to save $$.

With all of that said, I think professional training is the best.  I've been to classes in the service, from the PTI, and even the local community college.  I've learned from everybody.  I plan on getting over to VA and visit with Mr Middlebrook for a week when Jr gets into kindergarden in about a year.  Poor folks have poor ways!  Might try to get my 14 year old Princess there also.

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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2007, 11:19:53 AM »
I'm as eager as anyone else to see a "new" system that makes all others outdated, but am also eager to see something more than a list of (mostly) IDPA titles that do not list the level of competition.  An IDPA (or any) state title in marksman/sharpshooter is not the same as a first in Expert/Master level.  Most of the top level USPSA shooters will switch to a new gun or technique just to shave a few hundredths on their times, so I would expect them to be very enthused about these methods.  Along with many others, I was removing the sights from 1911's and doing what appears to be very some very similiar things nearly 30 years ago; it's amazing how well one can use the bare slide as a sight for precision shooting. Jim Cirillo also has published a well known method of indexing the firearm without using the conventional sights, although he does suggest it only for the closer engagements.  The last time I saw him (at a range in Panama City, Fl), he was testing lasers, and told me he had come to the conclusion that anyone without a laser in low light shooting was at a distinct disadvantage; this seems to match the conclusions of Michael and others.   I'm looking forward to Michael's usual superb coverage of your school and methods.

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Re: Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2007, 07:42:57 PM »
I'm as eager as anyone else to see a "new" system that makes all others outdated, but am also eager to see something more than a list of (mostly) IDPA titles that do not list the level of competition.  An IDPA (or any) state title in marksman/sharpshooter is not the same as a first in Expert/Master level...

Dude, those wins are for OVERALL DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIPS...not class wins like Marksman, SharpShooter, etc...  ::)

And that includes (3) National IDPA Championship titles in ESP and a bunch of World IDPA Championships titles in Speed Steel.

And as far as other all the other Point Shooters go, let me go on record right here and now and say this:

"I didn't invent Point Shooting, I perfected it. No brag, just fact." 8)


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