Author Topic: Democrat Report On F&F. It's Bush's Fault, And Some Rogues In AZ.  (Read 2118 times)

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Since Holder is being dragged kicking and screaming before Issa's Committee on Thurs.,  the Elijah Cummings (D-MD), led committee is trying to diffuse the entire Fast & Furious "issue"...

Summation of report:


Of course, Holder knew nothing, DHS, State Dept. no one inside the beltway knew anything,.....it all started under Bush anyway, and the ATF agents in AZ, were acting on their own,.....

an agent (Brian Terry) died,...tsk, tsk,...but did we mention Bush started it? Tragic we say,....tragic...Oh and the whistleblowers were just being vindictive and disgruntled.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-fast-and-furious-democrats-say-no-evidence-of-high-level-direction-from-justice-department/2012/01/31/gIQANemwdQ_story.html

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You can read the flagrant cronies for yourself..
Nothing to see here folks,....they are not even recommending charges, or firings, or anything...Just a whitewash pack of lies.







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Re: Democrat Report On F&F. It's Bush's Fault, And Some Rogues In AZ.
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 03:12:11 PM »
Bush did it....Just some pesky facts about "Wide Receiver";

Unlike F&F the Mexican gov't knew about Wide Receiver and there was at least an attempt to track the weapons.  Wide receiver was also ended ASAP when tracking failed and we're talking a couple hundred guns not a couple thousand.  Also there was no coercion of FFL dealers to make the sales.
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Re: Democrat Report On F&F. It's Bush's Fault, And Some Rogues In AZ.
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 03:42:06 PM »
Bush did it....Just some pesky facts about "Wide Receiver";

Unlike F&F the Mexican gov't knew about Wide Receiver and there was at least an attempt to track the weapons.  Wide receiver was also ended ASAP when tracking failed and we're talking a couple hundred guns not a couple thousand.  Also there was no coercion of FFL dealers to make the sales.

Haz, why are you letting facts get in the way of the narrative?  One of my favorite lines from original Star Trek:  You are not of the body!

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Re: Democrat Report On F&F. It's Bush's Fault, And Some Rogues In AZ.
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 03:50:13 PM »
Haz, why are you letting facts get in the way of the narrative?  One of my favorite lines from original Star Trek:  You are not of the body!

Silly me!

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Re: Democrat Report On F&F. It's Bush's Fault, And Some Rogues In AZ.
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 10:53:08 PM »
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/elisabethmeinecke/2012/01/30/diary_of_an_atf_whistleblower_and_the_corruption_that_led_to_fast_and_furious


Jan 30, 2012 10:45 AM EST
 

The environment at ATF today is one where honest officers cannot act without fear of reprisal from dishonest officers. Such is this agent's story, and the story of many other whistleblowers, including those involved in Fast and Furious.

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From Townhall Magazine's EXCLUSIVE February feature, "Diary of an ATF Whistleblower" by Vincent Cefalu, who's had a 30-year career as a law enforcement officer, 24 of those with ATF:
 
My name is Vincent A. Cefalu. I am a special agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms under the U.S. Department of Justice. Welcome to our nightmare. I say “our” because dozens of us can’t write a single article, and I have been asked and am privileged to speak on behalf of my peers who have not had the opportunity to voice their concerns related to ATF mismanagement, particularly with Operation Fast and Furious. This grotesquely dangerous and reckless operation should have never been considered, much less allowed to occur. It employed the unprecedented practice of allowing fi rearms to be transferred to violent criminals without any interdiction effort at all, in hopes of somehow later identifying high-level Mexican cartel members. But it was the pattern of gross mismanagement that had been allowed to exist in ATF—and that I witnessed—which fostered an environment that unleashed this operation, violating public trust on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border.
 
At no time in my career prior to becoming a complainant against my own agency—the agency I love and have been honored to serve— could I have ever been convinced I would be the poster boy for whistleblowers and challenges to corrupt government. As a young Marine military policeman, I was thrilled, proud and honored to be in law enforcement. I never considered it work....
 
But I ended up the lead agent in a case with huge vendetta overtones by my state and local counterparts, where members of an ad hoc task force insisted on fast-tracking wiretap attempts against the suspects. I refused. When I reported this officially, senior management retroactively fabricated justifications for the actions they were preparing to take against me. This led to a network of frustrated agents and inspectors, which ultimately resulted in my being contacted regarding the gun-walking practices and cover-ups related to Fast and Furious. I took this information to Congress and advocated others to do the same.
 
In the 18 months leading up to Fast and Furious, Special Agent in Charge Bill Newell’s actions required that the agency had to pay out over a million dollars in settlements which should have led to his removal for the related conduct, had it ever been investigated and documented. Special Agent in Charge George Gillette had been disciplined multiple times, and his subordinates had logged dozens of complaints related to his incompetence and mismanagement. Had ATF dealt with them at the time, the Fast and Furious program would never have been undertaken. However, by attacking those who exposed corruption, ATF was able to keep their golden boys in place. This process was repeated all over the country (Newell has since been relocated to D.C. headquarters, but not fired). So pronounced was the mismanagement that ATF logged more complaints than either the DEA or FBI per agent. This is notable because the latter two are much larger agencies.
 
I write this article almost 6 years into the whistleblower process with ATF and only after millions of taxpayer dollars and countless hours of manpower have been expended by my agency to attack and discredit me and other whistleblowers. ...
 
Read more of Vincent Cefalu's expose of ATF in the February issue of Townhall Magazine, including:
 
--how the ATF chooses to retaliate against whistleblowers
 --how ATF fostered an environment that lead to the deadly Operation Fast and Furious

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Re: Democrat Report On F&F. It's Bush's Fault, And Some Rogues In AZ.
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 05:30:50 PM »
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You can read the flagrant cronies for yourself..
Nothing to see here folks,....they are not even recommending charges, or firings, or anything...Just a whitewash pack of lies.

Same thing for all the CEO's of that drove our economy in the tank.  Bailed out by their buds Dem & Repub.

It is a big club folks, a rich guys club.  No thoughts for anyone but themselves and what they can take.  The difference seems to exist so one side can cat call the other when they are bested in the voting booth.

The lesser of two evils is still evil....avoid the illusion of a choice.
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