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[twyacht]

Spike's are great. Go with the flat top.

+1

Lots more options available.

[capbyrd]

This is a build that I am working on for my brother in law.  He is currently deployed and when he gets back, I'm giving it to him. 




Ive got 530 bucks in this if you include shipping and transfer fees.   All it needs is a rear sight or optic and its good to go. 

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[les snyder]

an expert on one of the forums commented that my Rock River 16" intermediate gas upper is a piece of junk (on an ArmaLite lower with RRA Natiional Match trigger and 4x32 ACOG)... might be, but will shoot five shot  4" groups at 400m with S&B 55 grain ammo

[twyacht]

an expert on one of the forums commented that my Rock River 16" intermediate gas upper is a piece of junk (on an ArmaLite lower with RRA Natiional Match trigger and 4x32 ACOG)... might be, but will shoot five shot  4" groups at 400m with S&B 55 grain ammo

That kind of AR snobbery has been kicked around here many times, and its unfortunate. I have experienced it first hand as well. Like I posted before regarding my own AR build, I want a "work" truck, not a show car. I can even beat the BG up with it, without having to worry about breaking anything, like high dollar accessories and optics.

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[Timothy]

an expert on one of the forums commented that my Rock River 16" intermediate gas upper is a piece of junk (on an ArmaLite lower with RRA Natiional Match trigger and 4x32 ACOG)... might be, but will shoot five shot  4" groups at 400m with S&B 55 grain ammo

I guess a 1/2 MOA isn't good enough for some people!

 

[bafsu92]

Don't waste your money on Spikes. Nothing wrong with the stuff but your paying for a trendy name. Their stuff comes off the same forge as R Guns, Surplus Ammo & Arms and other brands. Look at Palmetto State Armory, you can't beat their quality for the money. Buy one of their lowers, $79.95 right now but they run $49.95 specials a lot so watch for them. You can get their classic lower build kit for $99.95 or the Magpul MOE kit for $139.95. Lowers are super easy to build. If you want a basic M4 configuration their complete upper is about $389.95 with BCG & CH. You can upgrade to an MOE handguard and MOE rear sight for around $65.

 I'd personally run their flat top-Mid length light contour 14.7" upper that has the flash hider pinned and welded to 16.1" overall. I've got 3 of this configuration with all MOE furniture and if you shop their sales you can do it for right about you're $650 price point. You'll have a high quality optics ready rifle that comes in well under 7#. Don't waste your money on Model 1 or other garbage. PSA stuff is right on par with FNH manufacturing wise. I use them exclusively for budget builds and have never had a complaint. I've got a similarly configured Double Star factory rifle and the PSA rifle out shoots it at half the price. I'm a complete AR snob running almost all Noveske, LaRue, VLTOR uppers and POF stuff these days but I only use PSA for my budget, knock around and "Storage" rifles. Great customer service too. I live right down the street from Spikes and have many other options  close by but PSA has done me right. For the record, I have no affiliation with them other than wanting to see a good business succeed.http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05.html

[les snyder]

twyacht...I'm a 3 gun game player, and do have top of the line optics (Trijicon 4x32 TA01 ACOG on my primary, and 1.5x16 ACOG on my short game carbine)...at 64 with a 3.75 diopter astigmatism I need all the help I can get.. the horizontal stadia lines subtend 19" at their respective distances, so half a stadia line (upwind) is about 10"....it was windy at Ft Benning last year on the sniper range...don't remember if the RO called the hit at 1.5 or 2 upwind lines (15 or 20") on the 400m ten inch flash target ....just traded for a TA31F so will take a little time to sight it in

unless you really need a collapsible stock, look into a VietNam era A1 stock.... better length of pull for average sized person, and better cheek weld, unless you get a Crane stock with the cheek piece

[twyacht]

thanks les snyder, good info, glad to see your eyes can still get hits with great optics. bafsu92 is one of the go to "build/parts" guys here at DRTV, and I heeded his advice on my particular build. Now I'm hooked. (thanks bafsu)...

Mine was built kinda "purpose" specific,...I already own a Sig556 with a large scope and bipod, and was never an AR fan per se,...but I chose the VLTOR SOPMOD collapsible stock for the AR build. It has adjustable cheek-weld positions and is the one I really felt comfortable with.

My intentions for my carbine was CQ/SD, easy to sweep, short and sweet, utilizing the K.I.S.S. approach. Although, the Colt HBAR barrel, and Miculek Comp. really make recoil more like a .22LR, and it is very accurate to 100 yds., I'm sure it would perform out farther. (but my local range only goes to 100yds.)

I have always loved the traditional lines of the A1 stock and "M16" appeal, that Stoner designed. However, I will be stepping up to building a "copy" of the LWRC REPR in .308... 22-24" bull barrel, with some "custom" goodies, as the "reach out" rifle. Plus I can build one, for less than the price of the LWRC.



I'll probably stick with the "evil" black,...but this one is close to the goal....

[les snyder]

the Crane (Vltor) SOPMOD cheekpiece collapsible stock prototype was built in a friends garage (he edited the SOPMOD manual)... I shoot a slightly modified Miculek comp...open up the threaded boss and rear wiper with the minor diameter hole needed to thread 1/2x28...finish threads in the boss, index with shim washers to get rid of the lock nut.... I shoot an Enidine hydraulic buffer in my game gun, and with the Miculek comp and 4x scope do not come off target at 400m