First range report with the AR-based 6.5 Grendel rifle

[Neon Knight Anubis]

Duncan Hunter's son is a Marine and serving in the sandbox and the Congressman served in Vietnam in the Special Forces. In fact I know there are a few Iraq veterans that are running for federal office on both sides of the aisle and get this, they're helping each other out financially through an organization. I mean Republicans and Democrats providing some assistance for each other in an election? Try telling that to the party heads in Washington. I have to say we have the most honorable serving our country. God bless 'em.

[Catalina]

They aren't in Iraq either. and Neither are thier Kids

You can't spout  anti-war blather here without facts.

More oil for radical Islamicist blood in my name.

[Neon Knight Anubis]

I don't think that's where things were going, sounded more anti politician to me........


...Say, how's that Grendel AR? 

[tombogan03884]

There are MORE than one or two Congressmen that have kids serving in the military(overseas), just because you want it to be true doesn't mean it is.

"More than one or two" out of 545( Congress, Senate, Cabnet etc) isn't very impressive.

You can't spout  anti-war blather here without facts.

More oil for radical Islamicist blood in my name.

Who said anything about anti war ? I'm all in favor of the war, it's  self rightuos politicians I'm against. You need to read the comment in the context of previous posts or it doesn't even make sense.
The fact that this is only your 11th post tells me you probably have not read some of my other posts that illustrate my opinion more fully.

[keithm]

 

Before you guys derailed this thread with politics, I was learning a lot of stuff I didn't know about 6.x rifles in ARs.  In fact, now I'm really intrigued by them.  I found out a shop just up the road from me stocks and sells tons and tons of AR parts at reasonable prices.  This discovery will do terrible things to my wallet.    I was planning on buying a lower receiver next weekend.  But you guys have me intrigued on what kind of upper to build.  The info about the 6.x rounds fitting through standard AR magwells was a revelation to me. 

Thanks for the excellent range report and subsequent info. 

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

6.5 Grendel rounds will fit in an AR magazine and therefore through an AR mag well.  So, you get a new upper, swap out 223, attach 6.5 G upper, and slot in 6.5 G magazines and you're ready to shoot.  So, basically, you don't need a new lower as you would to fire .308.  It's the same reason people are trying 6.8SPC- it also fits through a regular AR lower.

short action vs long action in bolt rifles.

Sounds like a winner, and the group in the photo says accuracy is good. My major reservation with new cartridges is usually that the ammo supply is limited and spare parts are available only from one manufacturer.
Based on Overloads post the only thing REALLY differant on this is the barrel its self. With the tons of AR parts available it would seem to solve one problem, and reloading solves the other.

[keithm]

Based on Overloads post the only thing REALLY differant on this is the barrel its self. With the tons of AR parts available it would seem to solve one problem, and reloading solves the other.

That's what I came away with as well.  Which is why I'm so intrigued. 

[tombogan03884]

That's what I came away with as well.  Which is why I'm so intrigued. 

I would be but I spent all my money on an AK   

[Pathfinder]

Based on Overloads post the only thing REALLY differant on this is the barrel its self. With the tons of AR parts available it would seem to solve one problem, and reloading solves the other.

That's what I came away with as well.  Which is why I'm so intrigued. 

There's a tad more to it than that. Yeah, the barrel is heavier and different twist, 1-10.5 to 1-12 for the 6.5, don't recall the ones for the 6.8. And, if I remember correctly, the bolt group is beefier to handle "more power!". Mags need to be different too, but as I don't have a 6.x yet, not sure exactly how. I seem to have seen one statement that only the follower needs to be different, although a 30-round AR mag will hold less of the 6.x.

As for the rest, classic M-16/M-4 furniture and other little goodies - rails, sights, etc.

[tombogan03884]

There's a tad more to it than that. Yeah, the barrel is heavier and different twist, 1-10.5 to 1-12 for the 6.5, don't recall the ones for the 6.8. And, if I remember correctly, the bolt group is beefier to handle "more power!". Mags need to be different too, but as I don't have a 6.x yet, not sure exactly how. I seem to have seen one statement that only the follower needs to be different, although a 30-round AR mag will hold less of the 6.x.

As for the rest, classic M-16/M-4 furniture and other little goodies - rails, sights, etc.

I did not think of that but it makes sense that the bolt and carrier would also need to be larger, if only to locate the extractor far enough from the firing pin to grasp the larger diameter cartridge.