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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2012, 06:16:01 PM »
How are you applying pressure and are you heat curing?
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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2012, 06:40:45 PM »
How are you applying pressure and are you heat curing?

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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2012, 08:42:00 PM »
Now I think we have just experienced the largest thread drift ever from the OP...

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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2012, 09:45:52 PM »
Now I think we have just experienced the largest thread drift ever from the OP...



No ... I believe just recently we did pretty damn good over on the motorcycle thread.  Four pages of coming and going, and MB still hasn't answered the question.  I can't blame him, because if you weren't there from the beginning you can't figure out what it was about  ;D
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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 02:09:31 AM »
How are you applying pressure and are you heat curing?

well...I was "clamping" them between two, two by sixes, by screwing them together.  The first or top two by six, I drilled about six holes all the way through, face to face of the 2X6.  The drilled holes were just a big enough diameter  to let a 3 inch deck screw through.  At first I drilled both boards at the same time, but on clamping up my first piece, I discovered I drilled too far in the second board to get enough threads to grip on a few of the screws.  I used fender washers so that the pressure would be spread out and the bugle head shape wouldn't split the top board.

On the second glue up, I didn't drill into the bottom board.  So I was about done "clamping" it  up and all of a sudden.... CRACK!

The board had split right down the middle.

and with the epoxy quickly hardening up, I was like  :o

I ran around the house and found a few clamps.

It turned out just fine.  I let it out of the clamps after two hours.

As far as heat goes, NO! I am not supplying any heat.  It produces heat on its  own.  The three glue ups I have done so far have been warm to the touch like 6 hours after the initial glue up/clamp up.

I think for next time though, I will probably just start out with two pieces of 3/4" thick plywood, probably 2 squares, about  14 inches by 14 inches, or maybe 16 inches by 16 inches.  Then, instead of cutting the fabric into skinny 3 inch by 10 inch long strips, I will cut them into 12 inch by 12 squares.  I would still use screws, though to clamp it together, with maybe a 2X4 on edge clamped across the top as like a clamping caul to ensure that the middle gets pushed down tight.   I am thinking that a 12 inch by 12 glued up square of "micarta" would give me more options as far as orienting the "grain" of the grips any particular direction and/or to maximize the number of grip panels and minimize the waste.

But I will have to see how my first glue up looks, before I blow any more time, material and money on this.

Just scouring the web I have found several good websites/links, but they all seem to eventually trace back to one man, Argentinian knife maker Ariel Salaverria:

http://www.aescustomknives.com/docs/tutorial5.htm

http://www.aescustomknives.com/docs/tutorial6.htm

that last link there shows his rag twisting technique which gives the zig zagging damascus steel look to the finished product.

This guy has 666 pics uploaded to his photobucket site, which I have linked as a slideshow.  Go grab a coffee or a beer and watch this:

http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x45/shadetrees/?albumview=slideshow

So I might try that too, and make a clamping jig out of a piece of channel iron, oh, about 4 inches wide.

I have been using wax paper and cellophane to keep the epoxy from glueing the whole sha-bang to the 2X6's.  That would be really, really, bad.... >:(

If this produces good results, I might just break down and buy two steel plates, at least 3/8" thick, then some grade 8 bolts, drill matching holes all around the perimeter.  Insert the bolts, tighten the nuts down, then weld the head of the bolts to underside of one plate.  Then when it comes time to clamp them together, I will fire up the air compressor and use my air ratchet to quickly cinch everything down.

But, like I said....I will have to see how my first glue up looks, before I blow any more time, material and money on this.



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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 08:04:47 AM »
FYI: You can drop the whole micarta/epoxy mess into a ziplock bag and press that (also, do a flat surface on the bottom and add a few layers of towel/rag on top THEN press with a hard item like more wood/concrete, heat cured puppies or your truck. Works awesome.

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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2012, 09:23:22 AM »
cool!

Thanks!

Speaking of puppies (thread jack in progress)....I was sitting on the sofa this morning with Luna next to me.  I heard her grunt.  Looked down, and there was this little sack, like a water balloon, which contained a paw and a tail.
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WOW!

So that was at about 5 AM St. Louis time.

She has pushed out two more since then.


this one is latched on pretty well:


Anybody want to buy a slightly used sofa?   So much for that whelping box I made her.   ::)







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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2012, 10:05:41 AM »
Tyler, Go with clamps directly over the "micarta" if you use steel plates.
If you bolt them around the perimeter they will still bow in the middle.

It sounds like you are the victim of "Heck, I could make that".  ;D

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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2012, 10:44:40 AM »
well, I need something going on, on the side, just to dabble in to see if it would take off business wise...maybe enough to make it worthwhile to say claim going to major matches on the business taxes.   ;D

I had made some steel targets, and advertised them here in this forum's classifieds.  Meh!  Nobody seems interested in buying anything right now.  I had also posted them on the Brian Enos forums.  That thread had something like 722 views, but I only had one buyer...a set of 6 targets, $180 shipped.

Fooey!   :-\

So like maybe 400 to 600 people actually looked at the ad, maybe, and only one frickin' buyer.  Ugh....

Puppy #4 popped out at about 10 AM.

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Re: Anybody here ever try making their own micarta?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2012, 10:52:28 AM »

It sounds like you are the victim of "Heck, I could make that".  ;D

Ahh...jeesh... You should have seen me earlier in the week when I was researching PlasmaCAMs or CNC plasma tables.  I came across some homemade plasma CNC tables.  "Hmmn....Yeah, I could make that."

Fiddling around with micarta and epoxy seems like the cheaper option.

I have got one or two other design ideas for these micarta grips, so we'll see....

 

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