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tombogan03884

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 04:29:38 PM »
I don't have the time to verify most of this but it seems accurate as I recall the time period.  In 2003 I had more than enough other personal issues taking my attention away from what was happening in the Peoples Republic.  There are several verifiable links for anyone interested in the facts.

http://www.aboutmittromney.com/state/massachusetts.htm

I have to say, after reading the stuff at Tim's link, I'm leaning more that way.
One of his 2A endorsements comes from a guy who was a friend of my Dad's when I was a kid, and whom I would trust.

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 05:02:11 PM »
http://www.showmegunnews.com/2012/01/07/mitt-romney-signed-anti-gun-law-in-2004/

Supports Second Amendment rights but also assault weapon ban
Q: As governor you signed into law one of the toughest restrictions on assault weapons in the country.

A: Let’s get the record straight. First of all, there’s no question that I support 2nd Amendment rights, but I also support an assault weapon ban.
Look, I’ve been governor in a pretty tough state. You’ve heard of blue states. In the toughest of blue states, I made the toughest decisions and did what was right for America. I have conservative values.
Source: 2007 Republican Debate in South Carolina , May 15, 2007

Will support assault weapons bill and Brady Bill

The candidate reiterated his support for an assault weapons ban contained in Congress’ crime bill, and the Brady law which imposes a five-day waiting period on handgun purchases. ‘I don’t think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect,’ Romney said.
Source: Joe Battenfeld in Boston Herald , Aug 1, 1994

Campaigning for the Senate in 1994, Romney said he favored strong gun laws and did not “line up with the NRA.” He signed up for “lifetime membership” of the NRA in August 2006 while pondering a presidential run, praising the group for “doing good things” and “supporting the right to bear arms.”
Source: GovWatch on 2008 campaign: “Top Ten Flip-Flops” , Feb 5, 2008

http://www.issues2000.org/Governor/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm

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During Romney’s term he signed several pieces of firearms regulation. A look at that regulation does not reveal an anti-gun Romney. Those bills are characterized as “net gains” for gun owners in a state where opinioned is weighed against them.

During his tenure, Gov. Romney was credited with several improvements to state laws, including protections for shooting clubs, restoration of the Inland Fish and Game Fund, and requirements that all new hunters pass a hunter safety course. He is also credited with relaxing manufacturing testing for some models of pistols.


In 2004, Gov. Romney signed a firearms reform bill that made permanent the ban on assault weapons as well as clarified and insured other rights and responsibilities for gun owners. It was a hard-fought compromise between interest groups on both sides of the issue. The NRA Gun Owners’ Action League, law enforcement, and Massachusetts gun owners endorsed the bill.


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IMHO, He has a track record of political convenience. Walk the fence, try to "compromise" and get things done, some for the "red" folks, some for the "blue" folks.....

I think/hope enough "red" pressure will befall him if any anti-gun legislation comes to his desk...(if elected),,,,,however, he just comes across, to me, as kinda wishy washy almost RINO like....




Source: The Man, His Values, & His Vision, p. 72-73 , Aug 31, 2007






Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

tombogan03884

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 05:09:19 PM »
http://www.aboutmittromney.com/gun_rights.htm

MYTH #1 - Signed anti-gun legislation creating assault weapons ban:

This is a myth propagated by the Boston Globe and other main-stream media outlets.

Regarding the legislation the myth refers to, the NRA declared:

“Here are just some of the points that the media (including The Boston Globe) got wrong...

“Myth: The gun ban was extended...
“Myth: The legislature somehow "won over" gun-rights supporters by including reforms.

“Fact: NRA and Gun owners` Action League (GOAL) had made it very clear to the legislature that we would not give up any ground. NRA and GOAL supported this bill because it did not ban any guns, and because it made much-needed reforms.”

NRA-ILA :: Massachusetts - Firearms Reform Bill Sent to the Governor`s Desk - Jun 29, 2004

Massachusetts oldest, largest and premier pro-second amendment/gun rights group, Gun owners` Action League (GOAL) stated:

“The bill was the greatest victory for gun owners since the passage of the gun control laws in 1998 (Chapter 180 of the Acts of 1998). It was a reform bill totally supported by GOAL. Press and media stories around the country got it completely wrong when claimed the bill was an extension of the “assault weapon” ban that had sunset at the federal level. They could not have been more wrong. Unfortunately for the Governor, someone had also wrongly briefed him about the bill. As a result the Lt. Governor and the Governor made statements at the bill signing ceremony that angered GOAL members.”

Gun Owners’ Action League news - The Romney Record - Feb 2007

SUMMARY/HISTORY:

In 1998, Massachusetts passed a very restrictive, PERMANENT assault weapons ban along with many other very restrictive gun-control measures.

Romney worked for and signed a new law that undid significant aspects of that restrictive old gun-control law.

Gov Romney didn't have the votes to completely undo the permanent Massachusetts gun-ban, so he signed a new law that could be considered modifying the old assault weapons ban making it less restrictive, or could be considered a new assault weapons ban that was less restrictive and that gave more gun rights.

Check out the whole site, it makes some interesting reading

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 05:13:02 PM »
I'm still leaning towards that undisputed fact that Governors make far, far better Presidents than anyone who's come out of Congress regardless of whence they came!

It's why we don't generally elect Senators and Congressman.  In general, they suck in their entirety!  Never has that fact been more effectively proven as with our current Asshat in Chief!

I find so little to love in any of these guys that I'm just going with whomever in November!  It just blows that we're already seeing polls that suggest that whomever we run against the AHIC, we're going to lose!  It's kinda like calling the election before the polls close in California!

Stupid Tuesday is coming up soon!  Vote or don't vote, it's up to you but don't cry in your beer if your guy ain't dancing in the end!

tombogan03884

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2012, 07:06:38 PM »
More food for thought

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50373

Any Republican governor of a blue state who manages to balance the budget without raising taxes should be a nominee for Mount Rushmore, to say nothing of president.

Mitt Romney was governor of a state so blue, it's North Korea with more Irish people, and he balanced the budget without raising taxes.

Even Ronald Reagan raised taxes as governor of California, imposing a $1 billion tax increase his first year in office. It was the largest tax hike by a governor in the nation's history, raising income, corporate, sales and inheritance taxes. Five years later, Reagan raised taxes again by another $1.5 billion.

To be fair, unlike liberals, he also provided tax rebates that, over his tenure in office, totaled $5.7 billion, including $4 billion in property tax rebates.

But even Reagan didn't stop the growth of state government: While he was governor of California, the budget increased from $4.6 billion to $10.2 billion.

Republicans are able to contextualize Reagan's record -– it was California! -- but seem unable to contextualize Mitt Romney's record, even though he had to govern a state far more liberal than California was half a century ago.

When Reagan was governor, the California Assembly was majority Democrat, but the Senate was evenly split between Republicans and Democrats.

Gov. Romney had to contend with a 200-person state Legislature that included only 29 Republicans.

As Reagan tax guru Arthur Laffer has admitted, Reagan's specialty was cutting taxes, not spending. Reagan, he said, found "it hard to say no" and cutting spending is a "green-eyeshade budget thing," that requires poring over budgets, whereas cutting taxes can be done in the abstract.

Romney is a green-eyeshade guy.

Like Reagan, Romney inherited a huge, Democrat-created budget deficit. The existing Massachusetts deficit was already more than half a billion dollars when Romney took office halfway through a fiscal year, with a projected deficit of $3 billion for the following fiscal year.


And yet, Romney balanced Massachusetts' budget each year he was in office and left the state with a surplus, without raising taxes.


To the contrary, every single budget Romney submitted included income tax cuts -- all of which were rejected by the 85-percent Democratic Legislature. (The last time Massachusetts legislators approved an income tax cut was when it was attached to a bill raising their own salaries by 55 percent.)

Romney balanced the budget by slashing spending, eliminating ridiculous corporate tax loopholes and increasing user fees for government services consumed by only some citizens, such as court filings, taking the bar exam, boating, hunting and golf licenses.

He cut state spending by $600 million, including reducing his own staff budget by $1.2 million, and hacked the largest government agency, Health and Human Services, down from 13 divisions to four. He did this largely by persuading the Legislature to give him emergency powers his first year in office to cut government programs without their consent.

Although Romney was not able to get any income tax cuts past the Democratic Legislature, he won other tax cuts totaling nearly $400 million, including a one-time capital gains tax rebate and a two-day sales tax holiday for all purchases under $2,500.

He also vetoed more bills than any other governor in Massachusetts history, before or since. He vetoed bills concerning access to birth control, more spending on state zoos, and the creation of an Asian-American commission -- all of which were reversed by the Legislature.


As Barbara Anderson, executive director of Citizens for Limited Taxation, said, "What else could he do?"

Romney left his successor, Deval Patrick, Democrat and friend of Obama, with a "rainy day fund" of $2.1 billion, more than tripled from $640 million when Romney took office. (Of course, as soon as Romney was gone, Patrick raided the rainy day fund, increased government spending and raised taxes.)

Meanwhile, when he was in Congress, Santorum wouldn't even vote to eliminate federal funding for the National Endowment for the Arts. Santorum supported all sorts of big-government spending plans -- No Child Left Behind, prescription drug coverage for seniors and the "bridge to nowhere."

But you'd think we would at least have Santorum's vote against federal funding for pornographers and deviants. Alas, no.

The NEA, you will recall, uses federal taxpayer money to subsidize crucifixes submerged in urine, photos of bullwhips up a man's derriere, poems celebrating the Central Park jogger's rapists, photos of amputated human genitalia, vomit, mutilated corpses and dead fetuses. (And that was just the children's wing of the museum!)

But Rick Santorum voted against cutting funding for the NEA every time a vote was taken both as a representative and a senator -- in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1997 and 1998. These weren't accidental votes. Each one was deemed a key conservative vote on which members of Congress would be graded by the American Conservative Union.

There's your "true conservative," values voters.

Unfortunately, the more time a person spends in Washington, the more likely he is to consider it perfectly reasonable for the federal government to redistribute money from hardworking taxpayers to pornographers, con men, charlatans and thieves.

America is on a precipice. Unless we send Lizzie Borden to Washington next January, our country will begin an inevitable decline into a useless socialist country, with no money for national defense, no entrepreneurship, no new businesses being created, no new pharmaceuticals or cancer cures -- just the endless redistribution of an ever-dwindling pool of wealth from the makers to the takers, overseen by career politicians like Rick Santorum.

Mitt Romney has spent no time in Washington. He was a rabidly frugal fiscal conservative in a state where cutting government spending was as foreign an idea as it is in Washington today.

Do you think a man who slashed government spending in North Korea, put the corrupt and financially bleeding Olympics on solid financial footing and rescued dozens of companies from bankruptcy would consider a photo of a bullwhip stuck in a man's buttocks a wise investment of the taxpayers' money?

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
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Timothy

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 08:28:00 PM »
I'll admit I yanked the handle for Romney in the primary here.  I think Gingrich and Paul are done and Santorum is just another out of work congressmen whos record is less than impressive!

We need someone out the business community.  It's never been tried before and Romney is the only guy that comes with the requisite experience.

I don't care about pornography, abortion, gay marriage, birth control or unicorn subsidies at this point.  I care about the economy and national defense both of which he has pledged to support.  I don't think anyone is coming for my guns but I'm not yet on the tin foil brigade either!  If the MA Bureau of Firearms thinks they have an accurate accounting of the guns in the state they would be making a quantum mistake much the same as the British did in Concord and Lexington all those years ago!

Crucify me if you will but I'm going to support Willard from now till November.....

Scott Brown is trailing the Obama anus licker here so get on the Senate races and make a difference.

tombogan03884

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 09:48:15 PM »
I'll admit I yanked the handle for Romney in the primary here.  I think Gingrich and Paul are done and Santorum is just another out of work congressmen whos record is less than impressive!

We need someone out the business community.  It's never been tried before and Romney is the only guy that comes with the requisite experience.

I don't care about pornography, abortion, gay marriage, birth control or unicorn subsidies at this point.  I care about the economy and national defense both of which he has pledged to support.  I don't think anyone is coming for my guns but I'm not yet on the tin foil brigade either!  If the MA Bureau of Firearms thinks they have an accurate accounting of the guns in the state they would be making a quantum mistake much the same as the British did in Concord and Lexington all those years ago!

Crucify me if you will but I'm going to support Willard from now till November.....

Scott Brown is trailing the Obama anus licker here so get on the Senate races and make a difference.

2 things, first, the "porn thing" that AC was talking about is that our tax money is being used to fund it, and Santorum is OK with that.
The other thing is  Scott Brown may have an "R" after his name, but he is as much of a BHO ass licker as his Dem opponent.

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 10:10:41 PM »
2 things, first, the "porn thing" that AC was talking about is that our tax money is being used to fund it, and Santorum is OK with that.
The other thing is  Scott Brown may have an "R" after his name, but he is as much of a BHO ass licker as his Dem opponent.

Scott Brown is a disappointment and I still don't care about porn!

The NEA is another thing to abolish when we have the time!  Right now, there are far more pressing things on the agenda!

tombogan03884

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 10:28:57 AM »
Scott Brown is a disappointment and I still don't care about porn!

The NEA is another thing to abolish when we have the time! Right now, there are far more pressing things on the agenda!

Not really, while the NEA and NPR are each fairly small cutting Federal agencies should be the first step in deficit reduction.

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Re: Ann Coulter on Mitt Romney
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2012, 10:32:04 AM »
Not really, while the NEA and NPR are each fairly small cutting Federal agencies should be the first step in deficit reduction.

I meant after we get rid of the current Admin and Congress!

 

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