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Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
« on: April 07, 2008, 12:02:46 PM »
Neighbors of existing gun ranges and hunting preserves would have no legal recourse against the sound of gunfire under a bill making its way through the state House.


House Bill 2034, co-sponsored by Rep. Shane Schoeller, R-Willard, would give civil and criminal immunity to owners and users of gun ranges and hunting preserves.

The proposed law says gun users would be immune from prosecution or lawsuit for the "consequence of noise or sound emission resulting from the normal use of any such hunting preserve."

The legislation aims to beef up the rights of people who want to practice shooting rifles and pistols at licensed gun ranges. It comes as areas surrounding those rural establishments become more developed with new neighbors, Schoeller said.

"They'd like to see a little bit of protection," he said.

The House's Conservation and Natural Resources passed the bill Thursday. Rep. Dennis Wood, R-Kimberling City, sits on that committee and said he supports giving gun ranges protection from criminal and civil complaints.

"They were there first," Wood said of gun ranges and hunting preserves, which are scattered throughout southwest Missouri. "We're trying to protect the ability of people to sight in guns in a safe place."


 To Tom Masteller, former owner of the Marshfield Rifle Range, the legislation is just the type of legal protection he says he needed nine years ago when his former neighbors were suing to get the range shut down.

"I believe there should be more legislation," he said. Current laws mostly regulate that firearm ranges sit at least 1,000 yards from nearby homes.

According to the lawsuit, Robert Hamilton and Gail J. Barnekow sued Masteller in December 1999 claiming the firearm range caused "loud and disturbing noises" and presented a "danger to people driving along adjacent roadways." It also said the range was dangerous for Hamilton and Barnekow going in and out of their home on Rifle Range Road, four miles north of Marshfield in Webster County.

After nearly seven years of legal wrangling, Hamilton and Barnekow dropped their case in April 2006 just before it was set to go to trial. Hamilton declined to comment for this story.

To help Masteller's cause, a group of local gun rights supporters and members of the Osage Orange Sharp Shooters and Midwest Friends of Gun Owners of America raised money to pay off his $10,000 legal bills.

In turn, Masteller turned over the gun range to the supporters, who started the Marshfield Shooting Club.

The proposed law also would extend immunity to owners of Missouri's hunting preserves.

Bill Cork, owner of Running Spring Farm Hunting and Inn in Everton, said the very fact lawmakers feel compelled to legislate protections is "ridiculous."

"You want noise pollution? Go to (the corner of) Kearney and Kansas," Cork said, noting how loud idling diesel trucks can be in the city of Springfield.

Cork said the legislation will help deter "anti-hunting organizations" from getting county boards to pass ordinances regulating gun sound emissions.

Cork's preserve is located 27 miles northwest of Springfield and is only sanctioned to let hunters shoot quail, pheasant and chucker six months a year.

Another hunting preserve owner says her neighbors have never complained about the sound of shotguns being fired at scattering game birds.

"Down here, people kind of enjoy it and they say, 'Well somebody's bird hunting,'" said Carol Snyder, co-owner of Quad-E Wildlife Ranch, in Preston, 60 miles north of Springfield.

Rep. Wood said the Missouri Department of Conservation is not opposed to the legislation.

link http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080407/NEWS01/804070357/1007
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Re: Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2008, 12:04:15 PM »
I may be reading this wrong but it sounds like the two FUDDS at the end of the article are basically saying,  I don't have any problems so I don't care about this bill.

WRONG attitude!
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Re: Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2008, 12:55:44 PM »
The range we use for CCW classes in Raleigh is in peril as well. We have discussed a legislative remedy, but it seemed like a daunting task for five guys to undertake. Now we have a go-by, which really helps. Thanks!
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Re: Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 10:06:27 PM »
It may be the pollen in my head, but I am slow to "FUDDS" I think I get the acronym, maybe,..

Hey DDMack, as a fellow North Carolina boy, please let me know if there is anything we can do down here in Wilm.

The Gov. has his residence here in Southport, we'll paintball it, or send letters/emails. Whatever might help keep areas to shoot open and without restrictions that are nonsense.

Except RPG's, and some anti aircraft weapons, it's all good.
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Re: Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 11:16:50 PM »
Same crap in my neck of the woods. Beloit Rifle Club ( established in 1927) is coming under fire from our township when we got a couple of NRA grants to extend our ranges. We had to get a lawyer to pursue it. My understanding is the township wanted us to rezone. Which would of been the kiss of death for us. The whole no blue sky logic from them. Well long story short they agreed with us but sat on the permits, playing games. We still have not got those permits ( 1 year ago ).We had to return the grant money. Only positive thing to come out of this is the one person we supported for the township board was voted in this past election. We will see if she will hold up to her support of our club.
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Re: Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
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Re: Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2008, 05:10:48 AM »
It may be the pollen in my head, but I am slow to "FUDDS" I think I get the acronym, maybe,..

Hey DDMack, as a fellow North Carolina boy, please let me know if there is anything we can do down here in Wilm.

The Gov. has his residence here in Southport, we'll paintball it, or send letters/emails. Whatever might help keep areas to shoot open and without restrictions that are nonsense.

Except RPG's, and some anti aircraft weapons, it's all good.

Fudds isn't an acronym.  It comes from Elmer Fudd (cartoon) and it describes those hunters that don't like (or don't care) about EBRs, handguns or the 2A as long as their hunting shotgun / rifle is safe.  They don't belong to the NRA and never would and will even supprot gun bans cause they know that you only need a pump gun and a bolt gun to hunt with and they honestly believe ihe gun grabbers will never come after those.
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Re: Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2008, 06:41:17 AM »
This is a prob all over the US... and not just for gun owners... every thing from airports to zoos have this same prob as well...

The prob is idiots moving in next door then complaining about something that has been there longer then they have. 


Those people always crack me up.  Um, didn't you drive around the area before you bought your house?  Hell did you even read the contract/title search you signed when you bought your house?
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Re: Bill would protect gun owners, preserves and their noise
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2008, 06:43:51 AM »
Tom, don't start shelling yet ;). I have a plan and will have to get really involved, but that's fine too. Do you know these folks? http://www.grnc.org/  Need to stop lurking and start talking with them. Keep you posted. Mac.
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