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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 04:39:48 PM »
The "events" that raise red flags regarding this Admin. the Constitution, the Legislative Process, OUR Rights & Liberties, are happening at an alarming rate.

All this happened in less than 3 years. It's the timing......

We can terminate citizens overseas without due process.
We can go to the U.N. rather than Congress to launch military strikes.
The POTUS has publicly stated he will bypass Congress with no repercussions.
NDAA
This latest Exec. Order.
The Gov't can mandate health care coverage, or one faces a penalty. (SCOTUS steps in next week to decide this one).
Fast & Furious (They let a big fish known gun smuggler go, with a phone number on a $10 Bill to call back and "help")...NOT...
FBI Director Mueller was asked if the Gov't can terminate an American Citizen ON American Soil, "Check with DOJ"...Really?
Groping of 3 year olds,
Groping of 90 year olds with incontinence.
FEMA
EPA
Black Panthers acquitted
Violate your personal Faith, for the "greater good",....
An Admin. that supports anarchists/communists,etc,..with the Occupy Movement (stay tuned, big plans this Spring)

and now almost half a BILLION rds. of just ONE caliber for DHS.

FTA:I’ll leave you with the video of Larry Grathwohl, which can never, ever be posted, spread and publicized too much. Recorded in 1980, when Barack Obama was nothing more than a drug-addled foreign student at Occidental College and not yet even a glimmer in the eye of the Totalitarians who would later adopt him as their public persona, Grathwohl recounts conversations led by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, the founders and leaders of the Weather Underground, the Marxist-Communist-Totalitarian terrorist group that Grathwohl was tasked to infiltrate, and the eventual intimates, ghostwriter and political handlers of Barack and Michelle Obama.

This is who our POTUS admired, was influenced by, and considered mentors. Just part of a long list.
Watch it.







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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 04:47:41 PM »
4,500,000 to 3 departments = 1,500,000 each department

4 year allotment = 375,000 per year

say 50,000 armed officers (just a guess...have no idea how accurate..but saw 100,000 stated) = 7.5 rounds each

10,000 armed officers = 35.7 rounds each

1,000 armed officers = 375 rounds each.



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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 04:58:21 PM »
4,500,000 to 3 departments = 1,500,000 each department

4 year allotment = 375,000 per year

say 50,000 armed officers (just a guess...have no idea how accurate..but saw 100,000 stated) = 7.5 rounds each

10,000 armed officers = 35.7 rounds each

1,000 armed officers = 375 rounds each.


Left out a couple of 0's didn't you?   :D
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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2012, 05:25:33 PM »
Oppps.....I did....and it wasn't a typo...I remember 4.5 million....sucks to get old =(  Redo follows

450,000,000 to 3 departments = 150,000,000 to each department

4 year allotment = 37,500,000 per year

50,000 armed officers = 750 each

10,000 armed officers = 3,750 each

1,000 armed officers = 37,500 each


So, might be way to much or way to little depending upon the number of armed officers.



37,500 is plenty for a war.  3,750 will give some well trained officers, and 750 will get shooters who know which end the bullet comes out of.


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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 05:36:53 PM »
For a non-military issued rd. That they are JHP's (nice one's at that),....NOT FMJ target ammo,.....just kinda makes me say.

Methinks somethings afoot.....





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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2012, 05:41:21 PM »
Of course it did say "potentially" 450 million........which may mean "as much as we need, when we need it over the four years without going over".....but that is still a lot of rounds per man.......

Like Solus said.....they should be some well-trained agents..........
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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2012, 06:22:30 PM »
Do we have an accurate count of the armed agents who would be supplied by this order?
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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2012, 06:48:06 PM »
Do we have an accurate count of the armed agents who would be supplied by this order?

Doubt that....wouldn't want the public to know that kind of info, now would we?
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For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2012, 07:15:51 PM »
This contract is over years and is a Federal Contract for DHS. Seen an uproar on other forums in reference to this. I think it is a waste of energy. The .40 Smith and Wesson round

The events that took place with Hitler would never take place in the United States. It would be quashed as soon as it began. The communication we have today would spread at the touch of a key stroke.

I get rather sick of seeing our Federal LEO's bashed by those fearing the black helicopters that will never come. They are very well trained but they are also human beings, along with being American citizens. They are plenty aware that if they were given an order to come and take our guns that it would be suicide.

Now the guys who wear the powder blue helmets, that is another story and something that should be monitored.

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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2012, 07:33:19 PM »
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