Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber

[Elmer429]

Uhh, DHS/ICE will also be contracting for up to 175 million rounds of .223 over five years:

"STATEMENT OF WORK FOR
.223 REMINGTON CALIBER (STANDARD DUTY) (62 – 64 GRAIN) AMMUNITION   
Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)

1.0  SCOPE
The scope of this contract is to provide up to 33 million rounds of .223 Remington caliber (Standard Duty) ammunition in the base year and an estimated 33 million rounds in each of the four option years (and up to 2 million rounds of .223 Remington caliber (Enhanced Performance) ammunition in the base year and an estimated 2 million rounds in each of the four option years,) delivered to numerous Department of Homeland Security (DHS, or Department) component locations nationwide including those in the continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, Guam, the Northern Marianna Islands, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands."

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=140e263e1c4b2654e61adf022688eb5d&tab=documents&tabmode=list

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!

[Pathfinder]

up to 450 million rounds of .40S&W
175 million rounds of .223/5.56

There is one question I have not seen discussed here. Other than shooting  for target practice and training, at whom do they plan to fire this ammunition? Last time I checked, the numbers of "terrorists" engaged by DHS and its ilk over the past decade has been in the dozens, maybe low 100s. So who gets to be the target?   

[jnevis]

Like I mentioned before, they have to rotate the duty ammo they carry on a daily basis and dispose of it so there isn't usually that much of a "stockpile."  Our armory had enough for the entire dept to have three full mags (pistol) plus about half that as reserve.  The ammo that was rotated out for disposal was either shot by the RSOs during instructor training, shot by neighboring commands as "fam fire", or used to get marginal shooters a little more practice than the allocated rounds.   Our allotted shoots were 150 rounds but we usually let everybody shoot an extra 100 before we officiallt started to shoot to keep our expenditures balanced.  That extra was the duty ammo that was about to be expired.

[Solus]

up to 450 million rounds of .40S&W
175 million rounds of .223/5.56

There is one question I have not seen discussed here. Other than shooting  for target practice and training, at whom do they plan to fire this ammunition? Last time I checked, the numbers of "terrorists" engaged by DHS and its ilk over the past decade has been in the dozens, maybe low 100s. So who gets to be the target?   

Not gonna say I like the DHS organization at all, but if they are tasked with counter-terrorism in the USA, I'd rather they plan for the threat they might face in the next decade than what they have in the past decade.  Much better they plan for increased terrorist activity than they buy a few thousands round to be prepared to face another few hundred like they did in the past decade.

[tombogan03884]

Maybe they plan on shooting back at the "occupy" crowd who called for killing cops last weekend.

[Sponsor]

[Rastus]

Maybe they plan on shooting back at the "occupy" crowd who called for killing cops last weekend.

That would be novel.

[Pathfinder]

That would be novel.

Novel? You have more chance of getting hit by lightning after walking out of a building where you were just the sole winner of a $300 million lottery than for DHS to actually be effective against terrorists..

[tombogan03884]

Novel? You have more chance of getting hit by lightning after walking out of a building where you were just the sole winner of a $300 million lottery than for DHS to actually be effective against terrorists..

Funny you should post that.
A recent study found that you have a higher chance of being struck by lightning on the way to pick up your lottery winnings than you do of winning in the first place.

[Pathfinder]

Funny you should post that.
A recent study found that you have a higher chance of being struck by lightning on the way to pick up your lottery winnings than you do of winning in the first place.

And what's the probability of both happening there, Sheldon? 

[Ping]

If that POS wins by 1 single vote you can expect the media to be flooded with stories about his "mandate from the people".

If Obama wins, I think our Country will be totally screwed.