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Re: Who Sailed The Ship?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 08:07:35 PM »
   
Who Sailed The Ship?

I don't know, but I bet Deepwater, and Crusader Rabbit were in the crew  ;D

It's a historical fact that when they needed to lighten the ship they would dump the water, some times even ammo and guns.
History never mentions them dumping the booze though.  ;D

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Re: Who Sailed The Ship?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 09:04:05 PM »
alcohol is lighter than water, lower specific gravity. 79000 gallons of water (with a specific gravity of 1.0) weighs 264 tons or a volume of 264 cubic meters. not all that much when you do the math for weight, whereas water and food are much more dense which would make carrying more of either much less efficient. seriously, a ship that size should have no trouble with that  amount.
 we can carry 36,000 tons. now that's a load.

Remember, a ship that size* ain't really all that big. Plus, a gun deck full of cannons, not to mention the crew (450+ men and officers), as well as spare canvas/sails, timbers, rope, rigging, etc. in addition to the booze, water, booze, food, booze, ammunition, booze, and shot.

*She's 204' long (175' at the waterline) and only 43.5' wide. I can't find anything with her displacement, but then they measured by guns in those days, as in she was rated as a 44-gun heavy frigate.

Awwww, frigate, where's the booze? ? ? ? ?  :P
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Re: Who Sailed The Ship?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2012, 11:05:29 AM »
Remember, a ship that size* ain't really all that big. Plus, a gun deck full of cannons, not to mention the crew (450+ men and officers), as well as spare canvas/sails, timbers, rope, rigging, etc. in addition to the booze, water, booze, food, booze, ammunition, booze, and shot.

*She's 204' long (175' at the waterline) and only 43.5' wide. I can't find anything with her displacement, but then they measured by guns in those days, as in she was rated as a 44-gun heavy frigate.

Awwww, frigate, where's the booze? ? ? ? ?  :P
works out to be roughly 170 gallons of happiness per man if you round it up to 80,000 gallons. also, as food and water are used up you make space for more 'cargo'. another reason to use up plenty of shot and powder on other ships is that you can make space to store the booze you stol... err.. captured from the other vessel. must replace lost weight with some kind of ballast ... right?

from Wkipedia;
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Type: 44-gun frigate
Tonnage: 1,576[4]
Displacement: 2,200 tons[4]
Length: 204 ft (62 m) (length overall);
175 ft (53 m) at waterline
Beam: 43 ft 6 in (13.26 m)
Height: foremast: 198 ft (60 m)
mainmast: 220 ft (67 m)
mizzenmast:172.5 ft (52.6 m)[2]
Draft: 21 ft (6.4 m) forward
23 ft (7.0 m) aft[4]
Depth of hold: 14 ft 3 in (4.34 m)[1]
Decks: Orlop, Berth, Gun, Spar
Propulsion: Sail (three masts, ship rig)
Sail plan: 42,710 ft² (3,968 m²) on three masts[2]
Speed: 13 knots (24 km/h; 15 mph)[1]
Boats and landing
craft carried: 1 × 36 ft (11 m) longboat,
2 × 30 ft (9 m) cutters,
2 × 28 ft (9 m) whaleboats,
1 × 28 ft (9 m) gig,
1 × 22 ft (7 m) jolly boat,
1 × 14 ft (4 m) punt[2]
Complement: (1797) 12 officers and 450 enlisted. [5]
Armament: 30 × 24-pounder (11 kg) long gun,
20 × 32-pounder (15 kg) carronade,
2 × 24-pounder (11 kg) bow chasers[2]
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Re: Who Sailed The Ship?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2012, 05:46:49 PM »
That's what it was....The draft. She ran deep fully loaded. Good ol' oak and tar at that...And she had a proud American big beam at almost 44'.

Big, and runs fast and deep, ::) ....with a lot of firepower, (and booze),....but either way,....Built to American standards I'd say... ;D
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Re: Who Sailed The Ship?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2012, 06:05:43 PM »
Designed by a Philadelphia Quaker to be 25% larger than British Frigates which averaged 30 -38 guns.
None of the class, (The first 6 major ships of the US Navy ) ever lost a 1 on one fight with a British frigate.
It was so bad that the British Admiralty issued orders that forbid British Captian's from engaging in single combat with US warships.

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