George Zimmerman Charged

[MikeBjerum]

So much for the idea that because of that get out of jail free card legislation called stand your ground.

This evening George Zimmerman was charged with second degree murder.  He was already in custody, after turning himself in, prior to the public announcement.  TURNED  HIMSELF  IN  PRIOR  TO  ANNOUNCEMENT!

I watched the press conference twice, and I saw the same thing twice.  The majority of the press conference was spent lecturing everybody about how the system works, that this case will be tried in a court of law, that media and public opinion is not what matters, and that the system works.  It was made clear that stand your ground defense had nothing to do with the delay or the charges.  It was made clear that stand your ground is a part of the defense once you get into court.

However, questions from the media focused on why it took so long to charge, what finally lead to the charges, if stand your ground failed Zimmerman, and where Zimmerman is.  Great how the media can sit in a room and not adjust their predetermined questions after listening to the prosecutor explain everything.

After listening to, and double checking, the differences between first degree murder, second degree murder and manslaughter, I believe that the prosecution is painting themselves in a mighty tight corner by not charging with both second degree murder and manslaughter.  It sounds like they have done a lot of investigation, and she made it clear that the media does not know everything, but I see some mighty tough hurdles to jump for second degree murder.

[Timothy]

It was a bit much to listen to the prosecutor mention "justice for Treyvon"!

What about justice for George?  It's their job to prove the case, he doesn't even have to open his mouth again if he doesn't want to!  I think this was show and tell to calm the masses for the time being.

[MikeBjerum]

She did say justice for Zimmerman, but it went from equal, to an after thought to forced the last time.  She even threw in a weird smirk the last couple of sentences.

I do need to add that Eric Holden spent the day on TV, mostly through rebroadcasts, saying that the bar or threshold for the feds to step in is very high.  However, he did make sure we understood that he is looking at federal hate crime possibilities.  How can they prove that one when the 911 tape clearly demonstrates that the first mention of race came from the operator, and Zimmerman did not know.  Way to go Mr. Holden    Did Al Sharpton or Rev. Jackson write that speech for you 

[tombogan03884]

I posted before I saw this thread.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=19471.new#new

[Tyler Durden]

I've mentioned it before in my electoral college threads.

The election i think is going to be real close, and i think it all might hinge on Florida's electoral college votes.

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[jaybet]

Listening to the news this morning I thought to myself that the silver lining is that the mongers and the media are turning this into a total racial catasrophe, effectively taking Stand Your Ground and CCW in general completely out of the argument. Al Sharpton has hijacked the opportunity from the anti's.

[MikeBjerum]

Pretend for a moment that we live in a real world, and that everything between the media and government is running like it is supposed to run:

During the press conference, the Florida Special Prosecutor's press conference announcing that charges are being filed against George Zimmerman; during a press conference when Special Prosecutor Angela Corey lectured the media and us as citizens that this case has not been tried, that it has been extensively investigated, is very complex, and that it will be tried in a court of law; in a press conference when we were told repeatedly that this trial would be about protecting the rights of Mr. Martin's family and the rights of Mr. Zimmerman; and a press conference where we were told that things are proceeding smoothly (Mr. Zimmerman is in custody, and that he turned himself in on his own).  

Why during this very same press conference arranged by the prosecutor's office is the Rev. Al Sharpton standing next to Special Prosecutor Angela Corey?

I am not of the chosen race, so I do not need to ever concern myself with this.  However, if I were ever a victim of a crime that received national attention and someone like the Rev. Jessie Jackson or the Rev. Al Sharpton took the spot light over it, I would be in front of the media immediately sending a message for them to get there wast dispensing lower anatomy out of my life.  Who gave them permission and the right to turn every issue into a public circus to serve their own agenda?  I know they see themselves as the second coming, or even the reincarnated, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr..  But boys, you ain't!  I was too young to grasp everything with Rev. King Jr., but all I see from these two is using the Christian Church to divide the nation and fan the flames.  I honestly believe these two are trying to recreated the race riots of the 1960's.

[Timothy]

If not for racial division those two would be irrelevant and they know it!  They're trying to remain current so they must continue to fan the flames of racism!

According to George Will, 94% of the killings in the black community are from black perpetrators!  They're killing each other and no one bothers to mention that.  When Bill Cosby suggested that young black men take responsibility for the children they father, he was ostracized and condemned by the black community including Sharpton and Jackson!

They don't want things to change!

[Tyler Durden]

My gut feeling on this is that Zimmerman wasn't arrested and charged right off the bat because the police and DA's office had already seen Martin's name a few times come across their desks.  Heck! For all we know, if there were break ins/burglaries before and somebody was caught and that somebody happened to be black, it is very possible that it was Martin.  Since juvenile records are supposed to be sealed, the DA and police couldn't publicly say anything.

I wonder that if now that this is going to... I guess... A stand your ground hearing...and then possibly to trial I guess... I wonder if Martin's juvenile records if there are any will be unsealed.

On a different note...I have to wonder what Zimmerman's mom's maiden name is.

If it is something like Martinez or Rodriguez, I think we should incorporate that into the news reports.  "George Rodriguez Zimmerman turned himself in today...."

Since I have acess to Form 990's via guidestar.com,  i might  have to peek at the financials for rainbow push coalition and the action network and try to figure out how Al and Jesse are making their money.  I did some googling the other day and there were tax shenanigans going up between the SEIU, the democratic party, and PUSH...I think it was PUSH.

[sledgemeister]

If not for racial division those two would be irrelevant and they know it!  They're trying to remain current so they must continue to fan the flames of racism!

According to George Will, 94% of the killings in the black community are from black perpetrators!  They're killing each other and no one bothers to mention that.  When Bill Cosby suggested that young black men take responsibility for the children they father, he was ostracized and condemned by the black community including Sharpton and Jackson!

They don't want things to change!

Why would they want things to change, there is no money in that.