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CC in Starbucks..
« on: April 11, 2012, 11:46:04 PM »
So much for CWP holders coming out to support Starbucks..

http://www.guns.com/man-accidentally-shoots-bathroom-sink-in-starbucks.html

Man accidentally shoots bathroom sink inside Starbucks, promptly leaves

ArticleGun Laws, Self Defense - 04.10.2012




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Last week a man in Fort Walton, FL, walked into a Starbucks for a late afternoon caffeinated beverage, but before he ordered, what Guns.com assumes would've been, black coffee and apple pie with a slice of melted yellow cheese he stopped off into the bathroom, closed the door and accidentally discharged his firearm.

According to the the NWF Daily News, shortly after the barista heard the loud "bang", he said the man walked out with a "shocked look" on his face. The barista then asked the man what the loud noise was and the man said he was playing with his concealed weapon and it went off.

The man then decided he didn't want Starbucks, so he went down the street to Five Guys Burgers and Fries, whose menu is vastly different from Starbucks', while the barista called the police.

After an investigation, police reasoned that the man was quick drawing his handgun when it fired, shattering the sink and lodging a round into the tiled floor. It's unknown what brand of gun the man had or if someone was talking to him, but police did say the discharged round was a .40-caliber made by Hornady. No one was hurt.

The police, however, were unable to find the man to question him, but they are leaving the case open for investigation.

And since the police were unable to talk to him, very little is actually known about him other than a general description (brown hair, goatee, 5 foot 4 inches, and around 150 pounds), so police don't know his name or if he had a Florida-issued concealed carry permit.

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Re: CC in Starbucks..
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 05:17:35 AM »

Man accidentally shoots bathroom sink inside Starbucks, promptly leaves


Story by: Daniel Terrill

Last week a man in Fort Walton, FL, walked into a Starbucks for a late afternoon caffeinated beverage, but before he ordered, what Guns.com assumes would've been, black coffee and apple pie with a slice of melted yellow cheese he stopped off into the bathroom, closed the door and accidentally discharged his firearm.

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After an investigation, police reasoned that the man was quick drawing his handgun when it fired

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The police, however, were unable to find the man to question him, ..

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What a  lousy story.

1)  How does the reporter know it was an accident?  (good guess, but not a fact)
2)  How does the reporter know the man was going into SB for a "caffeinated beverage"?
3)  How does the reporter know what the man was going to order?
4)  How exactly did the police "reason" the man was quick drawing?   Or that he drew his weapon at all?

So few facts, so much conjecture.
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Re: CC in Starbucks..
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 07:47:16 AM »
 ???  If it wasn't for the report (not fact) that it was a .40 cal Hornaday; I would suspect this was a stunt to scare Starbucks into posting as a no gun kill zone.   :o
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Re: CC in Starbucks..
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 10:43:44 AM »
Well, the reporter is writing for Guns.com, so the bias would be towards the pro-gun side.

The only real fact we have, other than the caliber and make of the bullet (and if they can determine the make, my guess it was the Critical Defense with it's insert), is that the man said he was playing with his gun and it went off....if the clerk remembered/reported what was said accurately.  Playing might just mean handling...like setting it on the sink prior to taking a seat...or it could be practicing the draw.

In any case, my first guess would be that the guy's name was Tex, or a close relative on Tex's trunk of a family tree.



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Re: CC in Starbucks..
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 10:45:51 AM »
Well, the reporter is writing for Guns.com, so the bias would be towards the pro-gun side.

The only real fact we have, other than the caliber and make of the bullet (and if they can determine the make, my guess it was the Critical Defense with it's insert), is that the man said he was playing with his gun and it went off....if the clerk remembered/reported what was said accurately.  Playing might just mean handling...like setting it on the sink prior to taking a seat...or it could be practicing the draw.

In any case, my first guess would be that the guy's name was Tex, or a close relative on Tex's trunk of a family tree pole.


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Re: CC in Starbucks..
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Re: CC in Starbucks..
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 03:23:35 PM »
Solus and Tom, I just let out a good laugh at that.  ;D
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Re: CC in Starbucks..
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 07:01:43 PM »
Solus and Tom, I just let out a good laugh at that.  ;D

I stole the concept from some one here.

I believe his reference was.....     His family tree has no branches        sorry I don't remember who to credit for it...but I'll always remember it =))
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