American Guns

[BBJohnnyT]

I'll agree with your point, but I really wish more of them were written by gun people and fewer by Hollyweird ass hats.

Amen.  I'll just bet that the producers are secretly wishing someone would shoot their eye out, just for the drama and ratings.

[tombogan03884]

I'd like to see one where a bunch of REAL "gun guys" from different disciplines sat around BSing about gun stuff with demonstrations.
One episode could be a Long range shooter building a rifle, zeroing it and then making 1000+ yard shots.
Another one could have a collector showing the technical  progression of military rifles and how they advance the civilian market and vice versa.
Others could be "myth busting" famous shots with some history of the original shot. Hathcock/Zietsev countersniper through the scope, Oswald on Kennedy, Billy Dixon at Adobe Walls.
Stuff that will fascinate real shooters and show the rest that there is a lot more than just hunting and Self defense.

[BAC]

I'd like to see one where a bunch of REAL "gun guys" from different disciplines sat around BSing about gun stuff with demonstrations.
One episode could be a Long range shooter building a rifle, zeroing it and then making 1000+ yard shots.
Another one could have a collector showing the technical  progression of military rifles and how they advance the civilian market and vice versa.
Others could be "myth busting" famous shots with some history of the original shot. Hathcock/Zietsev countersniper through the scope, Oswald on Kennedy, Billy Dixon at Adobe Walls.
Stuff that will fascinate real shooters and show the rest that there is a lot more than just hunting and Self defense.

That would be fun to watch.  MB's schedule is usually pretty free.  Maybe he can whip something up in his free time.

[tombogan03884]

That would be fun to watch.  MB's schedule is usually pretty free.  Maybe he can whip something up in his free time.

There you go, give that "lay about" something to fill all that free time. 

[philw]

While it's great to critique the details in these shows, I'm all for more and more of these gun shows on TV.  From what I've seen, they generally present firearms as normal American businesses, in spite of specific faults, errors or TV drama. 

trust me I am far from doing that
and I agree it is good to see shows like that on the box  under main stream channels   even if they have all the wanky extras that the " sheeple" seem to love

however the true gun fan wants to see more details and more techy stuff

however that dose not rate well with the sheeple  and that is what counts  it is all about ratings

shows that are on the outdoor channel are targeted to there audience  and I am guessing shows like Amercan guns,  Sons of Guns and Top Shot are a great way to get more people looking at ok what else it out there and then they will then see what is out there like DRTV's shows and other more "Gun Geek" shows out there


I was more checking is he talking real prices   I know CNC's are not cheep to get and maintain   and I know they are there to make $$$ and good luck to him... 

PS when will we see MB walk in to " get some work done " 

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[MikeBjerum]

I hate to be the party pooper here, but we go round and round on this from time to time.  I have also PM'd MB on this one.  The answer is the same:  Ratings are what matters, and the ratings numbers go along the lines of what we are currently seeing.  We ARE a fringe group that advertisers and those that set up the schedules do not see as being large enough to market to.  The product MB puts out is the best balance between what we want, what he wants, and what puts food on his table.

As long as the Dancing With The Stars crowd is willing to watch Sons of Guns and American Guns we should be thankful to have guns in the mix to watch.  When we chase that crowd away we will also lose some of these shows.

[philw]

that's it M58  the reason why i said shows that rate will with the shepple are what they go and make lots of

[tombogan03884]

that's it M58  the reason why i said shows that rate will with the shepple are what they go and make lots of

I think this is putting the cart before the horse to a certain extent.
While I will grant that it is probably to late to change I think the problem began with moronic programing aiding in the dumbing of the public.
They've been calling it "the idiot box" and "the boob tube" as long as I've been alive.

[Magoo541]

Ratings are what matters, and the ratings numbers go along the lines of what we are currently seeing.  We ARE a fringe group that advertisers and those that set up the schedules do not see as being large enough to market to.  The product MB puts out is the best balance between what we want, what he wants, and what puts food on his table.

$6 Billion dollars in revenue by over 300 companies is hardly a fringe group.  I think there is a boom coming in shooting sports, more like a tidal wave and we can see some evidence of it.  MB calls it Gun Culture 2.0, kids that grew up with Call of Duty showing up at gun shows are making there way to competitions.  Beyond the competition side the lessons learned from Katrina are still ringing in many peoples' ears and once the economy picks back up I think you'll see more disposable income spent on firearms, ammo and accessories if the marketing people do their jobs well. 
But I see your point, MB does market to a niche group with his shows.  What is needed, not by MB-he needs to keep doing what he's doing, is a show in which guns are a costar/sidekick to a group of average people that overcome seemingly insurmountable odds to win the day (I'm thinking Caucasian (as in hillbillys of the Caucasus mountains) fighting for their freedom with AKs in one show followed by Pacific Islanders fighting off drug cartel minions with Ruger Mini-14s (A Team throwback), to Chinese peasants shaking off the shackles of communism with SKS) with the history of the specific weapons told along the way as well as the message of self-reliance.  Its obvious there is a dearth of imagination in Hollywood, just look at all the movies based on comic books, old stories or remakes (Footloose?? WTF!).  TV programming has fell for the easy, cheap entertainment-reality TV partly because they lack imagination.  Where are the modern day television/movie equivalents of Shakespeares, Dante, Charles Dickens, Mark Twain-insert great authors here-? 

[kmitch200]

TV programming has fell for the easy, cheap entertainment-reality TV partly because they lack imagination.  Where are the modern day television/movie equivalents of Shakespeares, Dante, Charles Dickens, Mark Twain-insert great authors here-?

TV has always been about selling advertising. The quality can be $hit, (Jersey Shore?), as long as people tune in for their fix and see some ads.
The whole idea behind American Idol isn't to identify a great singer. It's those 30-60 sec spots that TV lives on.