Is This As It Appears ??

[billt]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/02/arizona-police-respond-to-shooting-with-multiple-victims/

This happened in a town about 20 miles from me on the other side of the city. The whole thing just doesn't sit right with me. They aren't coming out and saying it was a murder / suicide, but they seem to be making reference to it. At least at this point. The neo nazi that was killed was very vocal about his anti illegal invader stance, as well as his hunting down of drug cartels and mules in the desert. Let's just say this guy didn't have a list of friends a mile long, in spite of the fact he was running for local sheriff.

"Gilbert police told FoxNews.com they are still looking at suspects, but based on witness reports they think the shooter is one of the deceased."

If they think the shooter is "one of the deceased", then why are they looking at suspects? Something doesn't wash here. This reminds me of the Muslim "honor killing" the cops down in Texas tried to sweep under the rug. If there are assassination squads killing American families this far north of the border, it isn't going to play very well at any level. A person who commits suicide with a weapon leaves plenty of evidence that cops see often enough as not to "look at other suspects". While it's possible this guy went off the deep end, why would he have been running for sheriff? And shooting a little girl?

[tombogan03884]

AP is calling him a "Neo Nazi", but the only thing they have to back it up is that he formed a "militia" to patrol for illegal border crossers and drug smugglers.
So far he just sounds like a good citizen.

http://news.yahoo.com/neo-nazi-among-5-dead-phoenix-area-shooting-125909538.html

[billt]

AP is calling him a "Neo Nazi", but the only thing they have to back it up is that he formed a "militia" to patrol for illegal border crossers and drug smugglers.
So far he just sounds like a good citizen.

http://news.yahoo.com/neo-nazi-among-5-dead-phoenix-area-shooting-125909538.html

That was my take as well. There really wasn't anything in this guys platform that I had any trouble agreeing with. This is the first I've read he was a former Marine.

[Tyler Durden]

It was Col. Mustard in the library with the lead pipe.

[Tyler Durden]

On a serious note, did the shooter have to kill the 16 month old?

The only other person it could have been was Franklin Hiot.  I am assuming he was a boyfriend/"son-in-law".

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[billt]

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2090/386/Militia_Leader_Dead:_Appeared_At_OWS_Protests_Video.html

Listening to him in this video, he doesn't come across as the type who would assassinate his family, then kill himself. Something is starting to really stink about all of this. The guy making the video seems like more of a anarchist then J.T. the alleged shooter.

[twyacht]

As Shakespeare stated,...."Somethings afoot,...."

Or Something is rotten in Denmark...

[tombogan03884]

As Shakespeare stated,...."Somethings afoot,...."

Or Something is rotten in Denmark...

It was Sherlock Holmes that said "The games afoot !"

[twyacht]

The process is in active existence; for example, 'The teams are on the pitch - the whistle blows - the game is afoot.'
Origin

From Shakespeare's King Henry IV Part I, 1597:

    "Before the game is afoot, thou still let'st slip."

OK, debating over 400 years worth of history is futile,....Holmes got it from Shakespeare....

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/360550.html

[tombogan03884]

Bubble, bubble toil and ...
Oh never mind.