Kel-Tec PMR 30

[MikeBjerum]

We are getting ready for our Friends of NRA banquet in August, and our state guy sent us a Kel-Tec PMR 30.  I haven't heard much about them, and the debate we had on hear a while back really didn't say much about them.  Does anyone have any definitive information on the gun?

I'm trying to decide how big a splash to make with it, or if it should be hidden in the salad.

[RTFM]

.....sooooo your NRA State rep GIVES you a FREE gun to raffle off and you want toooooooooo hide it from the very people your wanting to entice to come to your get together?


What?


FWIW I think there great guns (and lament the chance I had to purchase the one I had in my hand)

[tombogan03884]

Not my choice for SD, but it's a 30 round plinker, as long as it's reliable and reasonably accurate what's not to love ? (other than the price of 22Mag ammo I mean )

[bjtraz]

VERY hard to get. Selling for double of MSRP on the internet, A neat concept, but way overpriced right now. With the desire for these right now, I'd let people know the availability of it. YMMV.

Brian

[MikeBjerum]

.....sooooo your NRA State rep GIVES you a FREE gun to raffle off and you want toooooooooo hide it from the very people your wanting to entice to come to your get together?


What?


FWIW I think there great guns (and lament the chance I had to purchase the one I had in my hand)

We pay for it with funds raised, and being a practical kind of guy I hate giving junk away even if it is a fund raiser.  Quality not quantity!  I will write the check, and I will raise money with it, but I do not want to pretend I'm raffling a Cadillac if it is nothing but a Yugo.

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[gunman42782]

They are scarce as hens teeth.  We have a waiting list at the shop for them, and we get maybe one in a month.  The first ones they put out they had some trouble with, that is supposed to be fixed now. 

[tombogan03884]

They are scarce as hens teeth.  We have a waiting list at the shop for them, and we get maybe one in a month.  The first ones they put out they had some trouble with, that is supposed to be fixed now. 

What trouble ?

[BAC]

http://gunnuts.net/2011/05/16/kel-tec-pmr-30-suspended/

Speaking of Kel-Tec, they have currently suspended production of the Kel-Tec PMR-30 (of which they weren’t really producing a lot of guns anyway) due to keyholing issues with the gun.  For those not familiar with the term, keyholing is what happens with the rate of twist in the barrel doesn’t stabilize the bullet in flight.  The result is that the projectile tumbles and loses both accuracy and velocity at a much more rapid rate than a properly stabilized bullet.  Kel-Tec’s official press release follows the jump.

    As time has progressed, so has the PMR-30. Since the start of the year the PMR-30 has been shipping in full quantities to all of our distributors on a rotating basis (to make it fair for all distributors). Recently we have been made aware of a potential issue that we feel our customers should definitely be made aware of. We are in the middle of a re-design to our barrel due to key-holing concerns. For those unfamiliar with key-holing, basically it is when the bullet tumbles end over end rather than travelling stable with a solid spiral. It seems as though the 1:16 twist ratio of our barrels isn’t quite preventing these issues from occurring. We are currently testing new twist ratios for the PMR-30 so that these issues no longer occur (1:9 and 1:12). There has also been a cosmetic change to the barrel: we have removed the fluting on the barrel. The initial fluted design was for weight reduction, however it was time-consuming to produce. We have created a new design that matches the weight and decreases production time significantly. It will look like a more traditional pistol. IMPORTANT: For customers who DO own a PMR-30 and are experiencing key-holing, you may send your barrel in to be replaced by the newly redesigned versions once they are available. When they are available, a status update will be made so that our customers know that they can go ahead and send their barrel in for replacement. Shipping costs will be reimbursed, of course. Once the new design is tested and implemented, we will post all necessary information for sending back your defective barrel for replacement. As of today: 5/10/2011, we are halting shipments on the PMR-30 to reduce the number of potential key-holing pistols that go out. We estimate a 2-week period until shipments are resumed. We sincerely apologize to everyone who is affected by this. We hope that our customers understand that we are trying hard to make sure that the best possible product goes out.

[tombogan03884]

Oh.
A friend of mine had that problem with his 10/22 in .17 HMR.

[billt]

"IMPORTANT: For customers who DO own a PMR-30 and are experiencing key-holing, you may send your barrel in to be replaced by the newly redesigned versions once they are available."

This backs up everything I've read and heard to date. They run like a Rolex, but are inaccurate as hell.