Obama comes out......

[philw]

this has stirred  a bit of shit here ( yes the pun was intentional )   
firstly personally  marriage is for blokes and chicks  however I don't give a rats what others do if they want or not who am i to stop them  there choice  just like I Shoot and Hunt,  a lot don't like it but I don't want them to stop me from doing it.

also today was the 40th anniversary of a bloke getting bashed killed for being gay ( it was illegal to be gay and after he was killed SA was the first state to decriminalise it )   so now the greens are pushing to have marriage and with Obama coming out  they were all over it like a fat kid to candy



do you think this will be a game changer in the election   as they were saying a few states that now won't be sucking on the obama koolaid because of this.

my main point though WTF dose this have to do with it...

non-college educated white voters

i mean really  why bring that up  that college edumicated peoples are any different to non college edumicated. 


http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3499434.htm

PETER CAVE: US president Barack Obama has declared his support for same sex marriage.

Mr Obama says that after a prolonged evolution on the issue he is now in favour.

He says it's a personal view but it will have political implications.

Correspondent Stephanie Kennedy reports from Washington.

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: In a significant reversal Barack Obama has changed his view on this controversial social issue and in a hastily arranged interview he's unveiled his new position.

BARACK OBAMA: Over the course of several years as I talk to friends and family and neighbours, when I think about members of my own staff who are incredibly committed in monogamous relationships, same sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained even because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married.

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: Barack Obama is the first US president to back gay marriage but he was backed into a corner after his vice-president Joe Biden unexpectedly announced that he was "absolutely comfortable" with gay marriage in an interview earlier this week.

Other senior cabinet members followed, saying they also favoured gay unions. And recent polling revealed that a majority of Americans support homosexual marriage

Michelle Cottle is a political commentator and she says that Barack Obama had no choice but to reveal his new position now.

MICHELLE COTTLE: Whatever the president's personal journey on this has been there is no way he wanted to be having a culture discussion at this point in the campaign.

But you know you can call it Biden being Biden - once he opened his mouth this question was going to be out there. The president cannot afford to look wishy-washy on something like this so he was going to have to address it. And to his credit he did not, you know, he did not go half way. He went whole hog.

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: But Barack Obama's bold new position does come with its risks.

Julian Epstein is a Democrat political consultant and he says the president's support for gay marriage could alienate some voting groups.

JULIAN EPSTEIN: The polls show that nearly every segment of the American population is moving in the direction of supporting gay marriage. There are still major demographic groups where this can be used as a wedge.

Republicans will certainly attempt to try to use this as a wedge in the African American community. They will certainly try to use it as a wedge with non-college educated white voters. And there are risks there because Obama clearly needs votes in both of those communities.

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: And it will help mobilise the Republican base and boost Mitt Romney's conservative credentials.

The presumptive Republican nominee reaffirmed his opposition to gay marriage.

MITT ROMNEY: Well when these issues were raised in my state of Massachusetts I indicated my view which is I do not favour marriage between people of the same gender and I don't favour civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name.

While marriage is governed by state law and only a handful of states have legalised gay marriage, Barack Obama's historic position does put pressure on state legislatures to enact laws allowing homosexuals to marry.

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: In Washington this is Stephanie Kennedy reporting for AM.

[Pathfinder]

FTA: "Julian Epstein is a Democrat political consultant and he says the president's support for gay marriage could alienate some voting groups."

WRONG! Well, maybe the polls show that (they're not biased, no, not at all!), but in every election on marriage amendments, the numbers in favor of man-woman only have been increasing, not the other way around. Just the MSM at work spinning things the way they want it to go.

What frosted my cake, though, was bho (yuck, ptooey, may his name forever live in infamy) saying that as US troops served overseas on his behalf...

What a maroon! 

[rojawe]

Does this surprise anyone Really as I believe he has sold his soul  to anyone that might vote for the worst President in our History

[Timothy]

What frosted my cake, though, was bho (yuck, ptooey, may his name forever live in infamy) saying that as US troops served overseas on his behalf...

What a maroon! 

Yea, that kinda sticks in my craw as well...

[Timothy]

BTW Phil, there are already 39 states that have defined marriage as between a man and a woman only!  Several have amended their state constitutions to reflect that as well! 

Having that information, the Fed cannot even consider trying to amend the US Constitution as they'd not have the requisite 38 state majority to ratify the amendment.

He's done this to garner votes and try to bring his base back because he's pissed them off for being a do nothing lefty and really cranked up the independents who swung left in 2008.  The youth of the country will probably take a pass on the guy as well as their unemployment numbers coming out of college are nearly 50%!

He had a very, very bad week here....His kickoff in Ohio last week had booked a 14,000 seat arena and there were 4,000 empty seats!

Oops! 

[Sponsor]

[tt11758]

He's done this to garner votes and try to bring his base back because he's pissed them off for being a do nothing lefty and really cranked up the independents who swung left in 2008.  The youth of the country will probably take a pass on the guy as well as their unemployment numbers coming out of college are nearly 50%!

You are absolutely correct, Timmy.  At this point, the ONLY reason he'll be taking ANY position is that he thinks it might help save his worthless ass with the rabid, bat-shit crazy, womb-to-the-tomb, give-me-my-free-shit base. I'm not as optimistic about the youth of the country taking a pass on BHO this year, though.  Still got a lot of them who think college, food, housing, cars, gas, hookers, condoms, birth control pills, etc should be free.

I worry for the future of this country.

My politically incorrect campaign slogan for this year:  Evict A Kenyan From Public Housing. 

[tombogan03884]

From Phil's post :
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non-college educated white voters
i mean really  why bring that up  that college edumicated peoples are any different to non college edumicated.  "

It's simple really, College educated folks have been trained to parrot what an "Instructor" wants to hear.
Non college educated folks have learned to think for themselves.

BO has no principles or beliefs, he has the socialist agenda and poll results. 

[rojawe]

He hasn't done a thing really just blowing smoke for the Gays and he has only said he personally support Gay Marriage and nothing more. Dick Chenney did the same and nothing else so obama sold his soul for cash and votes without doing anything. If you were sleeping with the Worst lady U might consider the other opitions like Clinton did. obama saying I'm so Gay but I can't come out of the closet in my opinion

[PegLeg45]

He hasn't done a thing really just blowing smoke for the Gays and he has only said he personally support Gay Marriage and nothing more. Dick Chenney did the same and nothing else so obama sold his soul for cash and votes without doing anything. If you were sleeping with the Worst lady U might consider the other opitions like Clinton did. obama saying I'm so Gay but I can't come out of the closet in my opinion

It opens the door for more to come through:

http://www.congress.org/news/senate-democrats-want-to-go-farther-on-gay-rights/

Senate Democrats Want to Go Farther on Gay Rights

Senate Democrats want to push farther on gay rights issues.

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and 16 other Senators wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano today renewing a request to hold off on green card applications for binational gay couples while the Defense of Marriage Act is being challenged, reports Roll Call’s Humberto Sanchez.

The move would allow married binational gay and lesbian couples to remain together in the United States without forcing the foreign spouse to run afoul of immigration law. Nine states and the District of Columbia have laws that allow gay marriage, according to the group Freedom to Marry.

“We write to you to reiterate our request that the Administration provide relief for lesbian and gay families in which one spouse is not a U.S. citizen during this time of legal uncertainty,” the letter said.

Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) also plans a hearing on the Employment Non-Discrimination Act.

Read the full story on RollCall.com.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/senate_democrats_leap_into_the_debate_over_gay_rights-214445-1.html?ref=corg

[philw]

It's simple really, College educated folks have been trained to parrot what an "Instructor" wants to hear.
Non college educated folks have learned to think for themselves.

that is what i thought