Author Topic: Barrett Slapped In Face After Conceding Recall To Walker  (Read 4726 times)

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Re: Barrett Slapped In Face After Conceding Recall To Walker
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2012, 12:42:44 PM »
Solus,

What about the candidates that walk away from their campaigns during the primaries?  Don't they have a responsibility to the voters?

A contract is a contract.  The question isn't whether they should have entered into the contract.  The question is did they enter into the contract.

In 2000, Gore entered a contract with Bush in which Gore conceded the race and gave the office to Bush.  When the whole fight over recounts started Bush could have brought up contract law.  Gore would counter with faulting information leading to his decision, but that would not matter.  Gore made the decision and made the offer of his own free will, and Bush accepted it making it a binding contract.  This exact example was made at a business seminar lead by a panel of five attorneys and judges.  They were demonstrating how easy we can lock ourselves into something we don't intend or want.

Would this verbal contract of held up in the months of court cases.  Who knows, but since the courts ruled that invalid voting techniques and spoiled ballets needed to be interpreted and counted ...
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Re: Barrett Slapped In Face After Conceding Recall To Walker
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2012, 12:51:11 PM »
Hmmm...well, look at it this way.

Before the election the candidates can do what they wish and the ones who might have a valid breach of contract case would be the contributors.

Once the votes have been cast, I see it as a contract between the voters and the candidate and the candidate cannot breach that that contract with  a later contract with his opponent.

He can resign, but then his running mate would fulfill the contract.


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Re: Barrett Slapped In Face After Conceding Recall To Walker
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2012, 10:37:20 PM »
The thing Solus is that these clowns are resigning before the votes are counted.  They aren't waiting until they are (whatever) elect.
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Re: Barrett Slapped In Face After Conceding Recall To Walker
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2012, 09:28:35 AM »
The thing Solus is that these clowns are resigning before the votes are counted.  They aren't waiting until they are (whatever) elect.

Counted or not doesn't matter.   They have been cast.   The contract with the electorate becomes effective when the polls close.

I doubt anyone has conceded before the polls have closed.  They are conceding based upon predictions of the results.

I would never concede unless the ballots remaining to be counted were less than my opponents lead  plus the recount margin.  I would owe that much to the voters.
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Re: Barrett Slapped In Face After Conceding Recall To Walker
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2012, 09:46:32 AM »
Something both of you may be overlooking is that both candidates have representatives at each polling place who report to the campaign headquarters.
Just because the media has not reported an official total does not mean the candidates don't have a real good idea how things are going.

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Re: Barrett Slapped In Face After Conceding Recall To Walker
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Re: Barrett Slapped In Face After Conceding Recall To Walker
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 10:08:51 AM »
Not overlooking  it.  

If I were 1,000,000 votes behind and there were 1,000,000 votes to count, I'd not concede.

If there were 999,999, I would.....actually I'd take into account the recount margin....but I would unrealistically assume that all the uncounted votes could be cast for me.  
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

 

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