Dick Morris Says Obama Will Sign UN Small Arms Treaty Later This Month

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[MikeBjerum]

I have not had a chance to verify the facts in this video, but I have a couple questions:

1.  Can our President enter us into a treaty that goes against our Constitution?
2.  If the Senate ratifies this and it, as the video claims, becomes "like a 27th Amendment" changing the Second Amendment, can this be done strictly as a Senate ratification or does it need votes by us as citizens in each state?
3.  If we are truly faced with this and we see our Second Amendment going away, is that the call to arms as we were warned about by the Founding Fathers when they wrote the Second to help us protect this Republic from all enemies both foreign and domestic?

Mr. Bogan, Timmy, tw, I will wait for you great knowledge here.

[Ulmus]

Doc Wesson talked about it on his latest podcast.

http://www.gunnation.us/2012/07/7-3-2012show-no51-basic-3-gun-battery.html

It's in the fitrst part of his 'cast. 

I have to review it again, but I believe he said that the way it's being done, it would only need ratification by the Senate and not the house for it to go through.  IF it did, then an amendmenmt to the constitution would be needed to repeal it.   

[Timothy]

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, includes the Treaty Clause, which empowers the President of the United States to propose and chiefly negotiate agreements between the United States and other countries, which become treaties between the United States and other countries after the advice and consent of a super majority of the United States Senate.

My comment....Does the Senate have a super majority that can ratify the agreement?  I don't think so at this point.  That won't stop the asshat in chief from signing it though!

Section. 2.

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

[MikeBjerum]

I understand that this will happen through representation (two boys and girls for each of our states), and it is how a Republic works (looking out for our best interest as opposed to democratic vote on every issue).  However, at what point are they rewriting our Constitution without our consent ... Oh ... They are doing it right now as we type  

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[MikeBjerum]

Timothy,

Does this say that he needs to have the super majority approval before he signs and commits, or can he try and get it afterward?  It would put a whole new spin on the election if he took this to the Senate this month.

[tombogan03884]

Treaties have to be ratified first. The Communist in chief can't do it with an executive order and have it stand up.

[Timothy]

Timothy,

Does this say that he needs to have the super majority approval before he signs and commits, or can he try and get it afterward?  It would put a whole new spin on the election if he took this to the Senate this month.

It says "by and with the advice of the Senate".  As Tom stated, and I believe as well, that he cannot enter into a treaty by his signature authority alone.

Again, that doesn't mean he won't try!  Also, the clause states that "provided two thirds of the Senators present"!

He, being the consummate bender of Constitutional interpretation, could construe that to mean that he could conceivably force a vote during a short session that's tilted in his favor mathematically!

[Ulmus]

That should be expected.

[twyacht]

Counting on the "low-information" voter, BHO may very well sign it, however there is no official treaty, just a press kit ratification by the Senate during an election year is unlikely.

Note: there isn’t a U.N. Arms Trade Treaty. Not even a draft. Also, the President will only sign a gun grabbing U.N. Small Arms Treaty if he’s lost all the political instincts that carried him to the presidency in the first place. Nothing short of an Executive Order reinstating the assault weapons ban would do more to rally retaliatory Republicans than a U.N. document that even slightly abridges Americans’ Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. While some pundits point to the U.N. treaty as the “under the radar” gun control comment that Mr. Obama didn’t make, this would light up the right wing radar like a squadron of Russian nuclear bombers. Ain’t gonna happen. And even if it did, the Senate would shoot it down with extreme prejudice.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/07/robert-farago/obama-will-sign-u-n-gun-control-treaty-on-july-27-if-hes-stupid/

All this just goes to show that the U.N. regards gun ownership—even under national constitutional protection and for lawful activities—as a cultural failure that it needs to redress and that it has no patience at all with the idea that self-defense is an inherent right.

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/06/22/the-u-n-speaks-the-arms-trade-treaty-will-affect-legally-owned-weapons/

Here's the UN press release Jul 2.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/dc3362.doc.htm

UNODA (United Nations Office of Disarmament Affairs.) website.

http://www.un.org/disarmament/