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JLawson

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Have you heard about the IPAB?
« on: July 07, 2012, 10:44:35 AM »
IPAB stands for "Independent Payment Advisory Board" and it's a part of Obamacare that I had not heard of before.  Definitely one of those things Pelosi was talking about when she said we needed to pass the law so we could learn whats in it... it just keeps getting worse.

From 'The Daily Caller' -

"IPAB is a mini government within the federal bureaucracy. Not only does it create rather than merely implement Medicare cost-cutting policy, but it has greater power within its realm than elected officials — including the president of the United States. Indeed, its “advice” is really a mandate that literally can become law over a presidential veto."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/06/ipab-the-part-of-obamacare-that-cant-be-repealed/#ixzz1zx3NmFOa



Timothy

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 10:58:19 AM »
I'd heard of this before but I don't think that there is any law that cannot be undone by writing another law.  Even a Constitutional amendment can be undone by another amendment.  The 18th was repealed by the 21st...

pops1911

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 03:43:05 PM »
Well, I have at least 18 bullets if needed : ) - How about Romney write an EO that negates everything that BHo has done since he 'took' office including all legislation passed by Congress (maybe even further back). The next EO fires every federal employee, agent, legislator, administrator, Judge (especially SCOTUS), worker bee, etc & he can call them back as needed. Next is an EO to defund all federal programs & reinstitute the legislature (after BHo made them obsolete) & the SCOTUS (who did it to themselves). The Legislature can then pass laws again as needed with a very tight rein & they are limited to 6 weeks annually.

In other words restart the country based on the Constitution as the founders intended & libs can go get their own country if they don't like it here under our laws.
"...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds" -- Samual Adams

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 04:14:27 PM »
I think that is very similar to Tom Bogan's proposal except that yours uses a lot of EOs and Tom's uses a lot of rope.
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tombogan03884

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 06:16:18 PM »
I think that is very similar to Tom Bogan's proposal except that yours uses a lot of EOs and Tom's uses a lot of rope.

He can't write enough EO's to effect employment at Bic.
My plan on the other hand would create jobs on hemp farms and restart America's traditional rope industry. 
I would be creating jobs outside Govt service.  ;D

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
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pops1911

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 07:45:47 PM »
Yea, but we know Tom is one of those home-grown BHo talks about.  ;D  Of course I would never use rope, it stretches. Lead is the preferred media to me.

But seriously Tom has some good points & we do agree on a lot - I suspect many more do too but either are afraid to speak or don't want to duplicate etc. If you could take a nationwide vote on how, I'm sure there would be a lot of support. Hopefully we won't find out because things will get straightened out after Jan 2013 & BHo will be a fading nightmare tried for treason with all his cronies & punished accordingly & all his agenda will be erased since Pelosi & co never vetted him & we have to go back a few years & get a do-over. Then we can go after Soros with drones since he is a terrorist on the loose.
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tombogan03884

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 07:54:03 PM »
Yea, but we know Tom is one of those home-grown BHo talks about.  ;D  Of course I would never use rope, it stretches. Lead is the preferred media to me.

But seriously Tom has some good points & we do agree on a lot - I suspect many more do too but either are afraid to speak or don't want to duplicate etc. If you could take a nationwide vote on how, I'm sure there would be a lot of support. Hopefully we won't find out because things will get straightened out after Jan 2013 & BHo will be a fading nightmare tried for treason with all his cronies & punished accordingly & all his agenda will be erased since Pelosi & co never vetted him & we have to go back a few years & get a do-over. Then we can go after Soros with drones since he is a terrorist on the loose.

Pops, I like the way you think    ;D
I know where we could get plenty of help and probably even financing for that one.  ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukos

OJSC "Yukos Oil Company" (Russian: ОАО Нефтяна́я Компа́ния Ю́КОС, IPA: [ˈjukəs]) was a petroleum company in Russia which, until 2003, was controlled by Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky and a number of other prominent Russian businessmen. After Yukos was bankrupted, Khodorkovsky was convicted of fraud and sent to prison.

Yukos headquarters was located in Moscow. Yukos was one of the biggest and most successful Russian companies in 2000-2003. In 2003, following a tax reassessment, the Russian government presented Yukos with a series of tax claims that amounted to US$27 billion. As Yukos's assets were frozen by the government at the same time, the company was not able to pay these tax demands.[1] On August 1, 2006, a Russian court declared Yukos bankrupt.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gazprom

Gazprom's situation changed abruptly in June 2000, when Vladimir Putin became the President of Russia. Putin launched a campaign to rein in the oligarchs and, per his policy of the so-called national champions, to establish state control in strategic companies.[10] He launched an attack against what he saw as mismanagement and personal pillaging of state assets. After coming to power, Putin immediately fired Chernomyrdin from his position as the chairman of the company's board and used the stock owned by the state to vote out Vyakhirev. The two men were replaced by Dmitry Medvedev and Alexei Miller, who had previously worked with Putin in Saint Petersburg.[10

Soro's owns about 25% of GazProm and is close to Putin who also made Billions off the Iraq oil for food program, it is quite likely that  the guy sitting in Siberia, as well as his billionaire associates who fled Russia would be very happy to get a little pay back.

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 08:58:34 PM »
Cool - I can think of a few more for that honor too; but won't mention any names. I guess I need to look up the articles, not that I really trust WiKi; but independent verification should be easy enough. Food for thought.  I've also thought that if necessary we could get several million people to Washington to do whatever the situation called for (peaceful of course), although I do like the scenario called out by Rawles in "Survivors - A Novel Of The Coming Collapse" or maybe Clancy & the airliner. Of course after the book was out for 10 years, they decided to defend against that possibility.
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tombogan03884

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Re: Have you heard about the IPAB?
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 10:33:15 PM »
I'm sure Malasia and the Bank of England would be happy to help put a hurt on Georgie Boy as well, not to mention some Hungarian Jews and survivors of the '56 Hungarian uprising.
 No matter how much he spends to make people forget, George Soros has never been a very nice person.

 

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