Mass shooting at Colorado theater

[bjtraz]

I haven't clicked on the news yet this morning, but I think this picure helps explain things:


from the eye witness reports, I am surmising that he bought a ticket and then went in looking like a normal person.

A few minutes into the movie he acts like he receives a phone call, gets out of his seat, walks out the exit door, maybe rigs it so it doesn't latch behind, walks the 30 feet to his car.  Once at his car he starts suiting up and gathering up his guns.  Then he goes back through the same exit door.  Throws a can/grenade or two of tear gase into the crowded theater and proceeds to shooting, first with the shotgun, when that runs dry, then he switches over to the AR which if you look closely at the pic above has a normal GI style 30 round mag still in it, not a drum mag or a beta mag which has been reported (errr.... Fabricated???... To push an agenda)

I think we can all imagine the degree of panic that set in, especiall with everbody running for the door.

So he either runs out of ammo or figures the police are on their way, and walks out to the exit door, and is about to get in his car.  Supposedly, one or two cops see him but they think he is a cop just like them.

In other pics or footage, you can see the pieces of body armor and helmet lying on the sidewalk kind of close to the car.

Not to split hairs, but it is POSSIBLE that the mag is one of the new ones from Surefire, that do, indeed, hold 60 or 100 rounds. From this angle, that can't be determined. I'm just saying...................

Brian

[MikeBjerum]

Now I hear the LSM calling his vest "tactical" and no longer "bullet proof", even if they are still trying to leave that impression: "dressed head to toe in bullet proof gear."  Ya think maybe someone told them that you gotta spend more than $140 to get a bullet proof vest?

Ichiban,

Yesterday Chief Oates said he was wearing a ballistic tactical vest.  When asked what about bullet proof and what is tactical, he replied with words of bullet resistant and that the tactical had places to help hold "clips" and other items.  Oates did well earlier yesterday using the word magazines, but as he got very tired he shifted to clips, and today he is back using magazines.

[Tyler Durden]

He bought some of his stuff from a St. louis area vendor:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/massacre-suspect-bought-equipment-from-chesterfield-based-firm/article_143864cc-d2db-11e1-8841-001a4bcf6878.html

[Tyler Durden]

Not to split hairs, but it is POSSIBLE that the mag is one of the new ones from Surefire, that do, indeed, hold 60 or 100 rounds. From this angle, that can't be determined. I'm just saying...................

Brian

Whoops, yeah, totally forgot about the Surefire mags.  But the talking heads were specifically talking drum magazines... You know, just like at first they  called it an AK.

[MikeBjerum]

Not to split hairs, but it is POSSIBLE that the mag is one of the new ones from Surefire, that do, indeed, hold 60 or 100 rounds. From this angle, that can't be determined. I'm just saying...................

Brian

They specifically said that one of the magazines was a 100 round drum magazine.  It was in the initial reports, and it was repeated later by the Chief in his briefing.  I'm thinking a Beta Mag, because they have become very common in stores and on line.

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[Tyler Durden]

I've asked on forums about those beta mags.  Some say they are jamomatics.  Some say they run 100%.

call me sceptical, but unless I see the chief hold up an actual beta mag, i'll continue to find those reports doubtful.

Remember how the sheriff acted in the Gabby Giffords case.  He clearly had an agenda.

[MikeBjerum]

Tyler,

The Beta Mags have improved since they came out.  Also, we don't know how many rounds he actually fired from it.  He was doing New York reloads as he went through the theater.

Also, if you listen to the local officials you will not hear an agenda outside of nailing this guy's balls to a stump and pushing him off backwards.  They are being very careful not to miss anything or let anything leak.

[tombogan03884]

Tyler,

The Beta Mags have improved since they came out.  Also, we don't know how many rounds he actually fired from it.  He was doing New York reloads as he went through the theater.

Also, if you listen to the local officials you will not hear an agenda outside of nailing this guy's balls to a stump and pushing him off backwards.  They are being very careful not to miss anything or let anything leak.

I have to say that from what I have seen and heard all the local officials are handling it professionally.
The media on the other hand sinks to their usual low standard of hype , uninformed speculation and  hysterics.   

[JLawson]

The Surefire mags have a pretty distinctive appearance and even the 60-round model extends well below the grip.

[mkm]

Meanwhile, a federal law enforcement official provided an updated account about the gunfire inside the theater, saying that a semi-automatic assault rifle used by the shooter jammed during the attack, forcing him to switch to another weapon.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to in order to discuss the investigation, said late Saturday night that the jammed weapon had a high-capacity ammunition magazine. Police have said that a 100-round drum magazine was recovered at the scene and that such a weapon would be able to fire 50 to 60 rounds a minute.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-colo-suspect-planned-massacre-months-033025968.html

Still a little odd based off of the photo above.  If it jammed with the beta mag and he swapped weapons, why does it not have it in picture?