Colo mass shooting

[Timothy]

I know the Sikh's were exempted from the "No Beards" rule, for sure in that Brigade, if not Army wide.

You know that old adage.."Uniformity will prevail" in the military!  I can only surmise that Major Hasan has a medical exception that has been approved by the mamby, pamby hierarchy of the current military command structure.

[tombogan03884]

Hopefully they know he's riding a needle about the 1st of February and don't give a damn what he looks like when he dies .

[Timothy]

Hopefully they know he's riding a needle about the 1st of February and don't give a damn what he looks like when he dies .

He could be wearing a hair sweater for all I care!  He decided to shoot people in the wrong state but then, he's in the Feds system of justice now!

[tombogan03884]

He could be wearing a hair sweater for all I care!  He decided to shoot people in the wrong state but then, he's in the Feds system of justice just-us  now!

FIFY, Blacks and Muslims get special treatment from this regime.

[MikeBjerum]

Two guys that were sitting in the front row described how this guy walked in through the emergency exit, across the front, fired into the ceiling, then went up the aisle "sparing" the first few rows before he started shooting others.

Do I need to post a photo of what someone in the first couple of rows could have used to stop this quickly?

P.S.
They are now replaying the news conference from this evening.  Chief Dan Oates described the firearms, the ammunition, and the volume of magazines and ammunition purchased in recent days by the shooter.  Question:  It is an AR 15 assault rifle.  It is a S&W M&P15 "assault rifle" and the man in blue does not know if it is automatic...  The Colorado officials have impressed me to this point, but you guys are holding a rifle purchased at Gander Mountain that only comes in semi-automatic.

[Sponsor]

[Magnum]

Does anyone know if the shotgun used by this nut was a semi or a pump ? I am just curious.

[PegLeg45]

My reply on the issue of the shootings from another interweb location (where some pro-gun guys were falling for the hype, apparently, that more gun control could have prevented this or that guns caused it) went in part as follows:


If the guy had driven wildly down a crowded sidewalk in a Cadillac and killed/maimed the exact same number of folks, it would be a non-issue, as far as the media is concerned.
You just can't predict 'crazy'........
So much for "gun free zones".... and the false sense of safety they provide.

Being a killer is a mindset...irregardless of the weapon used. If someone wants to kill or maim bad enough, they will find a way to do it.
As to box cutters, were they not the weapon of choice for a few folks that hijacked four US planes on Sept. 11, 2001?

We can sit here and postulate and theorize the what-ifs until the cows come home and we'll be in the same place we started.

Guns are here..... guns are not BAD, but there are bad PEOPLE with guns.... always will be. There are too many good people out there with guns for any sane individual to blame the guns for the bad stuff that happens in this world. That would be like me saying that forks made me fat.

Violence happens every day.....prepare the best you can to deal with it.

[sledgemeister]

My reply on the issue of the shootings from another interweb location (where some pro-gun guys were falling for the hype, apparently, that more gun control could have prevented this or that guns caused it) went in part as follows:


If the guy had driven wildly down a crowded sidewalk in a Cadillac and killed/maimed the exact same number of folks, it would be a non-issue, as far as the media is concerned.
You just can't predict 'crazy'........
So much for "gun free zones".... and the false sense of safety they provide.

Being a killer is a mindset...irregardless of the weapon used. If someone wants to kill or maim bad enough, they will find a way to do it.
As to box cutters, were they not the weapon of choice for a few folks that hijacked four US planes on Sept. 11, 2001?

We can sit here and postulate and theorize the what-ifs until the cows come home and we'll be in the same place we started.

Guns are here..... guns are not BAD, but there are bad PEOPLE with guns.... always will be. There are too many good people out there with guns for any sane individual to blame the guns for the bad stuff that happens in this world. That would be like me saying that forks made me fat.

Violence happens every day.....prepare the best you can to deal with it.

Spot on Peg, everyone knows and remembers the Port Arthur Massacre in Australia, (just down the road from me, and yes I knew people that was killed) yet know one remembers the nutcase that massacred 15 people in Qld by setting fire to a backpackers hospital because the weapon was petrol. No one called for the banning of petrol, or requiring a licence to buy it, I mean heaven help us if the idiot had used 98 octane instead of regular unleaded.
Nutters are here, nothing will stop nutters from being nutters, someone who is hell bent on causing carnage will find a way, with or with out a firearm. Of course there is more of a chance he will be stopped if others are allowed to have access to a firearm.

[PegLeg45]

Col. Cooper sums it up best, IMHO:

 "Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized.
 The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

[tombogan03884]

Va Tech,  U of Alabama Huntsville,the Gifford's shooting in Tuscon, Ft Hood,now this guy.
There is one common thread that no one is addressing seriously, ( the Dracula looking guy on Fox did mention it yesterday )
In every case the killer was recognized as a dangerous nut job by people who dealt with them and no one did anything about it. Every one of them had a clean police record, the only one who did not go through at least one NICS check was Amy Bishop in Ala who used a borrowed pistol, and even though she had previously killed her own brother with a shotgun she would have passed because that was classed as an accident when she was a juvenile. (The case was reopened after the Huntsville shooting and found to have been badly flawed )
If we were less politically correct, and more proactive about mental health issues we would not need gun laws.