Colo mass shooting

[GlockAroundTheClock]

Just some food for thought. Has anyone noticed that they still haven't given a reason for the shootings yet. I find that odd, like they are trying to keep a lid on something. Within 48 hours of other shootings, most of the details have been reported by now. This entire incident stinks in every area: for the victoms, the families, and for Second amendment supporters. I find it odd that this just happens to happen right before the UN Small Arms Treaty Signing. The man is obviously deranged( despite ABC trying to make it the Tea Party's fault). Wouldn't it be ironic and despicable, if he were crazy enough to commit such a heinous crime to help out the anti gun cause and that is what they are hesitant about releasing. I know this kind of incident never make sense to begin with, it just seems like this man had an agenda, other than about himself or his victoms. 

just venting,

GATC

[MikeBjerum]

GATC,

You use the 48 hour timeline, and I will point out that at the time of your posting we were only 40 hours and 23 minutes into the incident.  Also, they are just now holding the press conference, so we do not know if they are not being up front at this time.

Edit addition:

They just now, 14:40 mountain time, announced that they are working with the FBI to determine a motive.  They are not speculating now, but the way the apartment was set up it was designed to kill anyone who enters, and they know that he assumed it would be law enforcement entering - meaning that he intended to kill officers.

[sledgemeister]

I think this picture speaks a thousand words of "motivation"

http://www.examiner.com/article/colorado-shooting-suspect-reported-to-be-former-occupy-member
The “Doo Doo Economics Blog” is reporting that shooting suspect James Holmes, of Aurora Colorado, is a former member of the Occupy San Diego group. Holmes was born and San Diego and has family there, and a Florida private investigator cited by the blog links Holes to the Occupy San Diego group. That investigator, Bill Warner, reports Holmes today on his web blow with this title, “Occupy Black Bloc Member James Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killing 12 And Wounding 50.”

Earlier today on ABC News coverage of the tragedy, Brian Ross has speculated than another man named James Holmes listed on a local Tea Party site was possibly the suspected shooter. Conservatives roundly criticized ABC News and Ross for showing media bias by so quickly drawing that conclusion in speculation, and some have called for Ross to be fired by ABC News.

The author of the Doo Doo Economics Blog cites Holmes as a member of the “black block” faction of the Occupy movement who left the group allegedly because it was not radical enough for him. The blog also shows screen shots from a site allegedly connected to Holmes who warned that he would kill everyone at the opening of the Batman movie in Colorado.

[tombogan03884]

"Black Bloc" (no "K") is a violence oriented Anarchist faction that infiltrates relatively peaceful liberal protests in order to incite riot and resultant use of force by Cops that can then be used as anti establishment propaganda.
Anarchists have been around since before the turn of the century (1900) and they have always engaged in violence such as murder, Pres. Garfield, Archduke Franz Ferdinand) train derailments in the American West and in Europe, as well as bombings such as the one in Haymarket square.

[Tyler Durden]

That doesn't make any sense to me.

You would think a guy would have to have his shit wired pretty tight to gain admission to a PhD program in neuroscience.  I would think there would be a lot of money to be made salarywise once he got the doctorate.  In short, he would be one of the "haves" that the occupy movement protests against. 

I am looking at those two pics... My gut says that those are two different guys.

And just because it is on the internet, especially a blog, it is not journalism.

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[tombogan03884]

That doesn't make any sense to me.

You would think a guy would have to have his shit wired pretty tight to gain admission to a PhD program in neuroscience.  I would think there would be a lot of money to be made salarywise once he got the doctorate.  In short, he would be one of the "haves" that the occupy movement protests against. 

I am looking at those two pics... My gut says that those are two different guys.

And just because it is on the internet, especially a blog, it is not journalism.

DO NOT LET MICHELLE MALKIN HEAR YOU SAY THAT ! !
It's OK to say it might not be true, but if you say it isn't journalism you might lose somethings you REALLY don't want to lose. 

http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/06/14/juan-williams-to-michelle-malkin-bloggers-arent-journalists/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/just-a-blogger-watch-michelle-malkin-assert-the-power-of-conservative-media-at-right-online/

[jnevis]

I would think there would be a lot of money to be made salarywise once he got the doctorate.  In short, he would be one of the "haves" that the occupy movement protests against. 

I am looking at those two pics... My gut says that those are two different guys.

I give it 50/50.  Shortening up his hair and shaving, it's possible.  It would also fit the profile: Mid/late 20s, highly intelligent with a lot of free time to get "bored" and want to try and cause trouble, enough money to actually do something about it, plus highly "indocrinated" by radical left academics (love San Diego but has some odd balls), but no firm direction.  Fight the system from within, so to speak.

 --edit-- They are saying that he was from San Diego but haven't made the Occupy connection officlally, not necessarilly withholding it.

We had a guy like that here a few years ago.  Software programmer on base (with a clearance), mid-20s, dating a hogh school student, building explosive devices in his apartment.  Left them out on the dinner table while the cops knocked on the door to ask about his car that had been stolen earlier in the day.  Only reason he gave to the officers about the explosives was that he was bored and wanted to see what he could make.

[mkm]

That doesn't make any sense to me.

You would think a guy would have to have his shit wired pretty tight to gain admission to a PhD program in neuroscience.   I would think there would be a lot of money to be made salarywise once he got the doctorate.  In short, he would be one of the "haves" that the occupy movement protests against. 

I am looking at those two pics... My gut says that those are two different guys.

And just because it is on the internet, especially a blog, it is not journalism.

As someone who has recently graduated with a M.S. and lives with a Ph.D. student, grad school can make you come unwired.  I don't think it's to blame for this by any means, but it can drive you crazy.  He just dropped out too.  College and graduate school in particular can be a big reality check.  You can quickly go from "the smart guy" to "just another guy" or "the dumb guy."

[Tyler Durden]

I'm following the AR15.com thread... All 94 pages of it.

[v1rot8]

Hassan can do as he pleases since he is a Muslim commissioned officer. Obama coming to Colorado today. How long did it take to find the way to Ft. Hood after Hassan did his deed?