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tombogan03884

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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2012, 05:21:52 PM »
People like Papabear are why you can't just say, "don't carry a 22".
My Dads in the same boat, arthritis and other problems mean he can't work a slide and makes the recoil of his Mod 27 very painful, so he carries a 22Mag Ruger single six . It would be near the bottom of the list of my choices, but it's much better than not carrying anything..

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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2012, 09:21:59 PM »
It all boils down to the same basic tenet that is preached so much by so many trainers....because it is true: carry the biggest caliber that you are able to shoot reliably well.
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2012, 10:08:57 PM »
Oh hell,
Get a real mans gun or stay home cowering under your covers


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1911 or Glock    ;D

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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2012, 12:25:21 PM »
Ok- let's see, a .22 aren't a real man's gun?  The  Mafia used them for a lot of contract killings, so did the Israelis Secret Service in assassinations.  Hope that you aren't calling them not real men.

Any gun is a tool, you use the right tool for the job.  If you have only one tool, use it as best as you can.  A poor shot with a .45  vs. a good shot with a .22 is in deep trouble.

Personally I'd love to use a Colt Peacemaker or Diamond Back, 1911,  but physically I can't  handle that large a caliber.  I use what I have with the greatest skill that I can employ.

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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2012, 12:45:47 PM »
I use what I have with the greatest skill that I can employ.

In the end, that's all any of us can do.  Skill can make up for a lot.

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tombogan03884

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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2012, 01:27:51 PM »
Ok- let's see, a .22 aren't a real man's gun?  The  Mafia used them for a lot of contract killings, so did the Israelis Secret Service in assassinations.  Hope that you aren't calling them not real men.

Any gun is a tool, you use the right tool for the job.  If you have only one tool, use it as best as you can.  A poor shot with a .45  vs. a good shot with a .22 is in deep trouble.

Personally I'd love to use a Colt Peacemaker or Diamond Back, 1911,  but physically I can't  handle that large a caliber.  I use what I have with the greatest skill that I can employ.

Papabear, read the link and you will understand it was a wise ass comment.
I happen to think .22's are great for many reasons and were I in the same boat as you and my Dad I would probably carry one rather than go with out, it is just way down on my list of preferences.
Given a choice between a .22 and a .25acp I would take the .22 every time.
But compared to a .50 cal concealed carry pistol it's a sissy gun.
Of course there is also this.



Now THAT'S a pistol !   ;D


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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2012, 05:15:42 PM »
You forgot the towed 105mm or the German 88, now that's a gun!  No CC permit for it though, open carry, wait the Ma Deuce would be ideal.  I loved the nuke though that you posted.  Just a slight delay as one of the Birdman arms guys said.

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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2012, 06:39:31 PM »
I am reminded of a tragic local story where a teenage girl was shot in the back with a .22 pistol, at a school here in S. Florida in 2008. It was a senseless act over gossip and nonsense.

The girl took a single shot to the back at point blank range. The shooter was another teenage girl.

The girl that was shot, quietly walked down the hall and minutes later, awaiting EMS, and still alert, and not showing signs of trauma,.....she eventually collapsed with no visible signs of being shot in the hallway. She wasn't even bleeding.

The only fly in the ointment I perceive, ballistic's wise, is the SD capabilities of stopping a threat. Yes, head shots work with any caliber, .....however, in a Critical Dynamic Incident, (As Rob Pincus calls it), I need the threat to go down, and go down right the (insert expletive) right now. I can't afford to have a BG remain mobile and a potential threat as he bleeds out some minutes or hours later.

Yes the .22 works, if it's what you want to carry. I would at least bump it up to the .22 Magnum.

Link to story...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450758,00.html

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The discovery of the body started a confusing series of events. Police said they did not believe anyone heard gunshots, and an initial examination found no major wound on the girl's body, leading to questions about whether or not she was shot.

Authorities later confirmed the shooting and Sousa said it was possible a smaller-caliber gun was used and the wound closed around the bullet.


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Big bullets lead to big holes. If you are capable and confident with a .22, by all means....Continue. It is effective. No Doubt.

Timing is everything....

Welcome to the doc, and Papabear. We need to post the vid of the double-arm amputee shooting a semi-auto with his feet from the hood of a car. He was racking, loading mags, and totally effective with his feet...

It's here in the archives already if someone has it.

All The Best,

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Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2012, 07:02:00 PM »
You forgot the towed 105mm or the German 88, now that's a gun!  No CC permit for it though, open carry, wait the Ma Deuce would be ideal.  I loved the nuke though that you posted.  Just a slight delay as one of the Birdman arms guys said.

These are guns I believe should be registered.
If it has a trailer hitch, it needs to have a trailer plate.    ;D


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Re: The .22 Affectionado
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2012, 07:13:18 PM »
These are guns I believe should be registered.
If it has a trailer hitch, it needs to have a trailer plate.    ;D

A few years ago when I joined my local range they told the story of a fella who joined the year before.  He got his card, key and membership package and that weekend, towed in a small cannon. 

They never let him light one off.  They refunded his dues and sent him on his way... ;D

 

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