Author Topic: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.  (Read 4559 times)

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Here's one for the "plastic fantastic",..... FAIL,.....Seems the pistol is an HK P2000, caliber looks like .40 S&W.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-did-this-border-patrol-agents-gun-snap-in-half/

There is a case to be made for traditional metal weapons over newer, polymer technology.

Example A is provided by The Loadout Room, a subset of SOFREP.com (the special operations forces report). It reports the following photos come from a border patrol agent who fell off his ATV while training. The short visit to the hospital by the agent wasn’t the only collateral damage of the fall, though. His P2000 handgun snapped at the handle.

“It is believed that his CBS, given the location behind the gun, may have created the torque necessary for this result,” an anonymous field training officer said according to The Loadout Room report.

The most important lesson here, according to the Loadout Room, is that “there’s a value in all metal guns that take a licking and keep on ticking.”

“There’s a reason the AK-47 is so prevalent in every crappy corner of the planet, it just keeps on working under the harshest of environments,” Brandon Webb writes in the post.

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Pics at link.....

Is that warranty?

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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 05:08:26 PM »
Definitely a factory defect.......   ::)  ::)  ::)

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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 05:53:04 PM »
If your going to buy a plastic gun, buy the best!















Glock  ;D

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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2012, 07:16:54 PM »
I'm sure the H&K customer service department will take good care of him.   ::)

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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 07:31:23 PM »
If your going to buy a plastic gun, buy the best!















Glock  ;D

Better yet, stick with the 101 year history of the 1911.  ;D
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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 09:55:28 PM »
I have owned two H&Ks in 40 and never had an issue with them but then again I have shot more rounds through my XDM in the last 3 months than I did through BOTH of them in the 4 years I had them.  Nothing against the guns, just a different time in my life.  Wish I had them both but thanks to .gov and an ex-wife I have been "relieved" of them.  We really need an angry/mad/upset emoticon...
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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 07:31:20 AM »
Gotta echo 1Buckshot here...

I've got a Gen 1 Glock 27 as my daily carry.

I trust it with my life.

Can't add up all the rounds I've sent down range with just one single failure to eject--and that was some crappy Russian ammo.

I recall seeing a video where a Glock was run over with a large truck with no damage.  Glock makes tough guns.

PLEASE NOTE:  I have nothing but respect for John Browning's 1911--may well be the best handgun ever designed.  But my pants tend to fall down when I try to carry one concealed.  And that ALWAYS draws unwanted attention.

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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 07:56:39 AM »
I'm no fan of HK but I have noticed all the Glock fans missing an import point in the article .

“It is believed that his CBS, given the location behind the gun, may have created the torque necessary for this result,” an anonymous field training officer said according to The Loadout Room report.

I also have seen those video's of a Glock on a flat surface being run over by a truck, big deal.
How would the Glock have held up if one end were propped up then walloped in the unsupported portion which seems to be more like the forces this gun was subjected to ?

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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 10:57:16 AM »
Couple of things:

I don't know what a CBS is and how it relates to this event?

Since I don't know what caused this and the force applied, I cannot say that a 1911 would have survived the episode without having been sprung to the point of being inoperative.  Doubt it would snap in half, but it might be torqued to the point of binding.

Last, I don't take 'freak accidents' as proof of the superiority of a Glock or 1911.  Had the accident been the guy backing into an exposed high voltage conduit with the butt of his 1911 and been electrocuted,  I don't think it would be a reason to tout the superiority of the Glock polymer frame over a steel frame.

I also don't think the Glock being run over while on the ground proves much except to dispel the belief that the frame is 'plastic' or 'Tupperware' for those who are impressed by such exaggerations.
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Re: US Border Patrol Agent Falls Off ATV, Duty Pistol Snaps In Half...Pics.
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 01:14:20 PM »
I better point out that while I'm not a fan of DA/ striker fired actions if I were to buy one it would be a Glock.

 

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