Home Defense with Taurus Judge

[gunman1911]

A .45-70 Judge would kick serious booty. 

Both ways!

[uhpretired]

Now this is out of a 25 INCH BARREL. You have got to expect A LOT LESS ENERGY out of the Judge per pellet. I don't go for this aggregate analysis. "I get ten little school girls to throw you a beating vs Mike Tyson" which one DON'T YOU WANT? I suspect you want to stay away from Tyson. So if it boils down to defending my wife and children with a 71 grain round or even the 87 grain SLUG, FORGET IT. I am coming out loaded for bear...and it ain't gonna be with a Judge. The pellets by the way are ROUND BALLS OF LEAD. Gee, how do you think they will behave when they hit a target. If I am right, the military gave up LEAD ROUND BALLS ...er...a hundred and fifty years ago !

I think it depends on what part of the body the "ten little school girls" will beat on and for how long as opposed to Mike Tyson.

[tombogan03884]

Now this is out of a 25 INCH BARREL. You have got to expect A LOT LESS ENERGY out of the Judge per pellet. I don't go for this aggregate analysis. "I get ten little school girls to throw you a beating vs Mike Tyson" which one DON'T YOU WANT? I suspect you want to stay away from Tyson. So if it boils down to defending my wife and children with a 71 grain round or even the 87 grain SLUG, FORGET IT. I am coming out loaded for bear...and it ain't gonna be with a Judge. The pellets by the way are ROUND BALLS OF LEAD. Gee, how do you think they will behave when they hit a target. If I am right, the military gave up LEAD ROUND BALLS ...er...a hundred and fifty years ago !

I think it depends on what part of the body the "ten little school girls" will beat on and for how long as opposed to Mike Tyson.

I agree, Tyson is tall enough to to punch you in the head so you don't feel the rest of the beating till you regain consciousness. Little school girls will only be able to punch how high ? ouch !      

[ericire12]

The pellets by the way are ROUND BALLS OF LEAD. Gee, how do you think they will behave when they hit a target. If I am right, the military gave up LEAD ROUND BALLS ...er...a hundred and fifty years ago !

I think it depends on what part of the body the "ten little school girls" will beat on and for how long as opposed to Mike Tyson.

Not in 12 ga Buckshot. The judge was an attempt at a downsized hand held version of the 12 ga buckshot concept. You know, a concealed carry shotgun.

Your point is right on target though. When it gets downsized past a certain point, you might just be better off with a single bullet that is designed for personal defense and capable of expansion - one that can create a devastating wound channel. Those little .410 pellets arent going to do that.

If you go over to the videos section of DRTV and watch the video of Baine shooting the judge  (http://www.downrange.tv/player.htm) it might just make a believer out of ya. I certainly am not going to go out and buy one as a personal defense gun, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be shot with one either! And if I already owned one, I would feel pretty good about my chances if I had to use it to fend off an attacker. 

[ericire12]

BTW: We havent really discussed this on this thread yet, but what about The Judge as the choice for a personal defense gun specifically for someone who doesnt have much experience with a firearm?

You know, someone who might not really like guns or is a little afraid of shooting them, but feels it might be a good idea to have one in the nightstand just in case. Six .410 shot shells might be just the answer for someone that doesnt have a lot of shooting experience and who may not be a very accurate shooter in a high stress situation.   

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[tombogan03884]

In 410 i would only use slugs. UNLESS you were concerned about something like snakes or mice. On people .410 shot will not be practicle, If some felon is trying to hurt or kill me I do NOT want to hurt or scare him, I want to kill that SOB as rapidly as possible. The .45 LC is the BEST optoin for that, but if you are in a location where over penetration poses an unreasonable risk to other  and the range is VERY short, such as an apartment or car on a busy street, the slug will do the job with out going through the threat and hitting someone in the next car or room.

[Overload]

Why would you want to fire .410 97gr slugs, when the same gun will chamber 250gr .45lc rounds?

In 410 i would only use slugs. UNLESS you were concerned about something like snakes or mice. On people .410 shot will not be practicle, If some felon is trying to hurt or kill me I do NOT want to hurt or scare him, I want to kill that SOB as rapidly as possible. The .45 LC is the BEST optoin for that, but if you are in a location where over penetration poses an unreasonable risk to other  and the range is VERY short, such as an apartment or car on a busy street, the slug will do the job with out going through the threat and hitting someone in the next car or room.

[tombogan03884]

Why would you want to fire .410 97gr slugs, when the same gun will chamber 250gr .45lc rounds?

Because as I THOUGHT I made clear above, at car jacking range or part way across a room the slug stands far less chance of going clear through the bad guy and killing some poor ba$t@rdin the next car or the next room. This is a good thing because you don't go to prison for negligent homicide, Unless you LIKE living in an 8X10 room with some 400 pound gorilla that calls you sweet cheeks.   

[wisconsin]

Just a thought here. When you responded to a opinion, and you type your words in BOLD form isn't that the same as yelling? Everyone has a right to his/her opinion. That why we are on this forum. However if I mistook these BOLD words as yelling back than I must apologize.

[tombogan03884]

Just a thought here. When you responded to a opinion, and you type your words in BOLD form isn't that the same as yelling? Everyone has a right to his/her opinion. That why we are on this forum. However if I mistook these BOLD words as yelling back than I must apologize.

 In the reply box at the bottom of the page there are no "Bold" or "Italic" buttons, so I use capitals.