Russian Navy Portrayed At Patiotic DNC's Last Night Salute To Vets

[fightingquaker13]

Russian tech does suck, the T 34 was largely designed by German engineers in German supplied factories.
It was how the post WWI German Army developed it's armor theory while skirting the treaty of Versailles.
In the 20's, well before Hitler, German Chief of Staff Hans Von Seekt arranged a deal where Germany could build tanks and train tankers in Russia in exchange for factories and technology.

And didn't that bite them on the ass, in both directions.
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[tombogan03884]

And didn't that bite them on the ass, in both directions.
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Kind of like supporting the Anti Qaddafi rebels.

[fightingquaker13]

Kind of like supporting the Anti Qaddafi rebels.

Yup, and now they're attacking our embassies in Yemen and Tunisia. When will we learn that, in Kissenger's words, FP should be about changing the external behavior of nations, not their internal policies. That never ends well. Sadly W. and BO seemed to have missed that lesson. God knows whether Romney will get it.
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[tombogan03884]

We need Tony Soprano for Secretary of State.
The Mafia has the right idea on external relations, they will work with anyone if it's to their advantage.
If they get screwed with they kill the person responsible.
The objective is the well being of the "family", the same ideas should be applied by our nation.
Why should we waste our time and resources on "nation building" in countries that have had thousands of years to get it right and are still where they were under Alexander ?

[fightingquaker13]

We need Tony Soprano for Secretary of State.
The Mafia has the right idea on external relations, they will work with anyone if it's to their advantage.
If they get screwed with they kill the person responsible.
The objective is the well being of the "family", the same ideas should be applied by our nation.
Why should we waste our time and resources on "nation building" in countries that have had thousands of years to get it right and are still where they were under Alexander ?

That was what the founders, particularly Adams believed. As long as you leave us alone, see if I give a damn how you run your country. That's between you and your people, its not my problem. Think of all the grief, money and lives we could have saved if we'd just stuck with that? Maybe those old dead white guys knew a thing or two?
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[bulldog75]

They are just promoting their boss.

[tombogan03884]

"He'll be more flexible after the election"
Hopefully he'll be paying his own greens fees as well.

[fightingquaker13]

Hell, I'll buy him a new set of clubs as a going away gift. Though God knows I'll probably be saying the same about Mitt after two years.
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[twyacht]

I don't know, some Migs were really ass kicking aircraft that forced America to step up their aircraft design especially in Korea.

We did have better pilots though,.....

[tombogan03884]

TW, don't forget, those Mig 15s were designed by German prisoners and flown by Russias best pilots.
They may have raised hell with our  WWII era, by then obsolete, F 80's, But F-86's, our first post war jet, using equivalent technology kicked the snot out of them.