Walmart refuses to sell shotgun to woman, says it's 'Too much gun'

[PegLeg45]

Apologize guys as I was out "ridin' fence" with my son yesterday. Looks like I stirred up a bit of a hornet's nest with my comments. If we believe we have inalienable rights to fire arms, and I certainly do, then we must also believe that other people have inalienable rights not to sell us fire arms. Go to an auto dealer, have your driver's license and insurance, but when they check your credit rating it doesn't look so hot. The law, constitution, nothing, says anything about your credit rating, but the dealership says 'no sale'. Have they violated your rights? Do they have a right to do that? Okay, fire arms are mentioned in the constitution and autos are not, so my analogy might not be the the best. I am just trying to point out that every transaction has some human-to-human interaction that may not be perfect. Has anyone found any reaction from Walmart to this incident? If the story as I read it was true, then I hope Walmart fired his butt. But, if there is another side to the story, I'd still like to hear it. Thanks for responding positively and negatively...that's how I learn!

That analogy don't float...... not the same thing at all.
The credit check they do does not mean they are denying you the right to buy the car.... it just means you don't have the required credit line to buy it over a timed period....... They will gladly still sell you the car for cash.
Different horse all together than plainly refusing to sell something outright, for no legal reason.

[Timothy]

That analogy don't float...... not the same thing at all.
The credit check they do does not mean they are denying you the right to buy the car.... it just means you don't have the required credit line to buy it over a timed period....... They will gladly still sell you the car for cash.
Different horse all together than plainly refusing to sell something outright, for no legal reason.

I agree with that summation.  Some car dealers will break the law to sell you a car, promise you everything and bait and switch you till you're reeling from the pressure.  Most I've dealt with could care less what happens after you drive off the lot.

[tombogan03884]

Car dealers get paid for every car they do the paper work on. It the financial company, Credit company, bank, whoever your payments are supposed to go to that gets hosed if you don't pay for it.

[Jrlobo]

m58,

     Believe Tom caught it. To reiterate though, if the little girl demonstrated to me that she couldn't handle the shotgun in the store (couldn't heft it under control, couldn't control muzzle direction, etc.), I wouldn't let her have the shells with it to carry through the store, etc. For all I know the salesman was her husband and that, to me, is the essence of needing to know the rest of the story. Guess I am just an old skeptic that no longer takes a one person story at face value. My motto says it better.

     As for the analogy, the auto dealer has the first choice of whether or not to sell you the car. It's his right.

     Hopefully I am not as bad as the salesman in Walmart! I would have sold her the shotgun for Pete's sake.

[MikeBjerum]

Jrlobo,

I believe you caught my drift that I feel both Walmart and you are wrong in your stances.  One for not selling the firearm, and you for being willing to not sell ammunition based on your opinion of use and ability.

That is my opinion, and based on the story I see no reason for it to be any other way.

Sorry if that offends you, but that is me.  Tom and I have disagreed in the past as well, and I am surprised at this one.

Mike

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[tombogan03884]

Jrlobo,

I believe you caught my drift that I feel both Walmart and you are wrong in your stances.  One for not selling the firearm, and you for being willing to not sell ammunition based on your opinion of use and ability.

That is my opinion, and based on the story I see no reason for it to be any other way.

Sorry if that offends you, but that is me.  Tom and I have disagreed in the past as well, and I am surprised at this one.

Mike

Mike, it wasn't "Wal - Mart", it was one self important clerk.
There's enough stuff to bitch about about Wal Mart, no need to blame them just because one clerk is a pinhead.
It depends on circumstances, in this case I would have sold her the gun and ammo, I can think of situations where I would either not make the sale or just call security.
I can't think of a situation where I would sell the gun but not the ammo.

[MikeBjerum]

Tom,

It is Walmart!  A business is responsible for everything their employees do when on duty.  I did searches right after I first read this and found nothing to say Walmart rectified the situation.  I have also not heard from any source that Walmart rectified this.  Based on those three comments I stick by Walmart being responsible for their employee's on duty actions.  That is the reason you hear about business releasing, suspending or supporting their employees following incidents.  Walmart has remained quiet as far as I can read.

If I misunderstood your opinion that Walmart or Jrlobo was ok in their stance of not selling a firearm or ammunition to a legal buyer I appologize.

[tombogan03884]

Tom,

It is Walmart!  A business is responsible for everything their employees do when on duty.  I did searches right after I first read this and found nothing to say Walmart rectified the situation.  I have also not heard from any source that Walmart rectified this.  Based on those three comments I stick by Walmart being responsible for their employee's on duty actions.  That is the reason you hear about business releasing, suspending or supporting their employees following incidents.  Walmart has remained quiet as far as I can read.

If I misunderstood your opinion that Walmart or Jrlobo was ok in their stance of not selling a firearm or ammunition to a legal buyer I appologize.

You say you found nothing saying they had rectified the problem.
Did you find anything saying they had not ?

[MikeBjerum]

When you are reading the news paper, listening to radio news, watching tv news, or searching news sources which do you see:

A long list of press releases not issued;
Or a press releases from entities stating something?

[tombogan03884]

In other words you don't know whether they did anything about it or not, only that there were no further reports.