I wonder where it says that they can do this?...

[santahog]

I wrote both Senators on this one.. Sessions will say Tough.. I 'm not sure what Shelby will say..
This one will probably get me visited by the reserve detachment for these guys..

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/10/04/military-employed-for-crowd-control-at-college-football-game/#.UG9F3qWYp2I.facebook



October 4th, 2012
Military Employed For Crowd Control At College Football Game

In yet another example of the blurring of the lines between civilian police and US military forces, Columbia, South Carolina police “officials” have announced that US Military Police from Ft. Jackson will be on the streets alongside civilian law enforcement after the South Carolina-Georgia football game this Saturday night, October 6.

According to reports by WISTV, Columbia will be spending more than $11,000 worth of overtime for 50 officers who will be placed in the Five Points and Vista areas after the game. The teams will be made up of University of South Carolina Campus Police, Richland County Sheriff’s Deputies, the South Carolina Highway Patrol, and Military Police from Ft. Jackson.

The plan will involve barricades, surveillance cameras, DUI checkpoints, and even observation towers “to keep the crowd under control.”

WISTV reports that the “Gang Unit,” “Narcotics Unit,” and the “Firearm Prevention Team,” “Quick Reaction Team,” and the “Special Unit For Quick Pickup of Detainees,” will be on hand for the massive police state buildup in Five Points. It should be noted that the “Firearm Prevention Team” will be receiving help from the ATF.

Citing a shooting and two mob assaults in the Five Points area after the South Carolina-Missouri game on Sept. 23 as justification for the Five Points buildup, Police Chief Les Wiser stated that regular police patrols would continue and that police presence in other parts of the city would not be limited.

While WISTV did state that the reason behind the presence of Ft. Jackson Military Police would be “in case any members of the armed forces are arrested,” it should be clear to all that US Military Troops working alongside civilian police is nothing more than a conditioning exercise designed to acclimate the American people to the sight of US Military troops acting as police and to see it as an ordinary event.

Unfortunately, the placement of military soldiers in civilian law enforcement capacity is not only a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, it is now an increasingly common occurrence.

In the last few years we have seen US Military troops deployed all over the country for the purpose of assisting domestic law enforcement. For instance, U.S. Army personnel were deployed to the streets of Samson, Alabama in 2009 for the purposes of aiding the local police in patrols after a gunman left 10 people dead.

Even more common, the US Military has been involved in aiding local and state law enforcement conducting roadblocks for some time, even, as was the case in Tennessee, amidst the objections of some state officials.

In Virginia, the National Guard has been involved in conducting “wellness checks” as well as patrolling downtown city locations and residential neighborhoods.
Yet, even more disturbing is the wholesale deployment of US troops inside the United States known as USNORTHCOM. As Susanne Posel of Occupy Corporatism writes:

    USNORTHCOM and Leon Panetta, US Secretary of Defense, has readily admitted that US armed forces will collaborate with local law enforcement ‘if called upon’.

    In fact, more than 20,000 troops were brought home and readied for deployment within the US to assist in ‘civil unrest and crowd control’.

    The US military will prop up the US Secret Service ‘for operational security reasons we do not discuss the numbers of military personnel and resources that are involved. Additionally, we do not share our operational plans,’ said U.S. Navy Lt. Cdr. William G. Lewis.

    The extent of use of military forces on civilian matters, as reported by mainstream media (MSM) have included the reallocation of hundreds of military police officers being trained to ‘assist local authorities’ in investigation, crime scene and case building.

    An estimated 500 military police and dogs will be used as ‘law enforcement battalions’. These soldiers, having served on tours in Afghanistan, will now be activated and based out of military bases across America to help local police forces.

Clearly, the American people are being conditioned to accept the US Military as a domestic police force by the slow acclimation process of introducing military presence in a variety of different circumstances. Unfortunately, if there is any question as to whether or not the average American will be successfully duped by the conditioning effort being implemented by the US oligarchs, we need only look as far as the NFL, whose fans can now be subjected to the invasive TSA-style pat downs before entering the event.

If sports fans are willing to subject themselves to this form of demeaning treatment for the opportunity watch a game, then the mere presence of military personnel in the streets is not likely to alarm them.

[tombogan03884]

First off, if "US Military Police from Ft. Jackson" consists of a 1/2 dozen guys to take charge of drunk soldiers that's one thing, it is a normal thing in all "liberty" towns, and has been for decades, I recall seeing Navy and Marine Shore Patrols in New Orleans in 1977.
If it's the entire Company that could be another matter, but still not a violation of PC if they are National Guard rather than Reserves or Regular Army.
National Guard are not under Federal jurisdiction unless federalized through a specific process and therefore as "State" troops they are not covered by PC.
On top of all that, the Posse Comitatus act, if it is still in effect, has been severely weakened under the guise of "The war on Drugs".
It is worth noting that during the Wounded Knee stand off in 1973
whole units of the 101st air assault Div were deputized as Federal Marshals and deployed to the Reservation.
At Waco there were military personnel deployed as "advisers" as well as substantial evidence of military snipers engaging the victims trying to flee the flames.
The only actual prohibition contained in the Constitution is the 3rd A which says you can not be forced to provide housing for troops.

[santahog]

And then there's this..
What if..

[fatbaldguy]

Another step toward the precipice.

[tombogan03884]

Worthless with out context.
First off those were all riot POLICE.
The narration had absolutely no connection with the video images.
Second, who were the protestors ?
 I distinctly saw the Flag of the Basque terrorist ETA.
Who produced the film , what's their agenda ?

Remember this ?

They were originally posted by the ANTI Israel lobby and ended with an IDF soldier pointing his rifle at a little kid, then it went to a title saying "the real holocaust is happening in Palestine"

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[Grizzle_Bear]

[Thinking outside the box idea.....]

Rather than bringing in a bunch of additional officers, either civilian or military, to attemp to handle the anticipated riot, and spending huge amounts of money, that they probably don't have, and will ask the Federal Government for, how about this:

A. Cancel the damn football game!  (Let them flip a coin to decide the winner.)

B. Hold the football game in an EMPTY stadium, and videotape it for airing the next day.  Play it EARLY in the morning, when all the college students and other troublemakers will be asleep, or at least not yet drunk enough to start a riot.

You see, there are actually simple solutions to all of life's problems.........

GB

[fightingquaker13]

Yep, an 8am kickoff would do it. The drunks would have crashed, and the students that showed would be either sober or too hungover too make much of a fuss. A lot easier to deal with some commonsense rather than macho posturing and "zero tolerance" BS. There's a reason that judo and Akido are classics. Sadly, there's also a reason MMA is more popular. The first two require some brain power. That's in short supply, especially in the enforcement wings of the federal government who, through no fault of their own, are more geared to enforcing the rules, rather then thinking creatively about ways to avoid the conflict, particularly under the last three administrations. Its like the old saw about bar fights. How do you win one? The answer is "Recognize that the bar is a bad place to be and don't go there in the first place". If you know X+Y=kaboom, seperate X and Y. Problem averted, and that's better than problem solved.Nice post Grizzle.
FQ13

[santahog]

Okay.. This is the end of the "follow up"..
Sen. Sessions reply was predictable.
Sen. Shelby was interesting. He said that he had forwarded my concerns to the Pentagon, and that I would be getting my answer directly from them, thanks..
I got my reply from Ft. Jackson (not the Pentagon..) what said that they didn't deploy anybody from Ft. Jackson, that they thought about sending two MPs to augment their TOC, or civilian equivalent designation, but that they decided against it in the end.
No soldiers deployed..
Summary of the little voyage down that road..