whats a bike worth? In NJ your life apparently

[fightingquaker13]

Franklin said both, although the "voting themselves money" quote has been attributed as far back as Rome.
You don't have to be a believer yourself to see that America's churches look at the Bible and preach what makes them feel good and look popular, ignoring the parts they don't like.

Every Church, synagouge and mosque does that. I mean do you really think God gave the pope his blessing to hold onto the Papal States? I'm a Christian, but please, there is no reason we have a hundred different denominations if the Bible was a self interpreting text.

[tombogan03884]

Every Church, synagouge and mosque does that. I mean do you really think God gave the pope his blessing to hold onto the Papal States? I'm a Christian, but please, there is no reason we have a hundred different denominations if the Bible was a self interpreting text.

So your liberal brain flips don't see any conflic6t between the Leviticus passage that specifies death for gays and the election of Gene Robinson as an Episcopal Bishop ?

If you were older I would say Orwell modeled his "New speak" on your thinking.

[fightingquaker13]

So your liberal brain flips don't see any conflic6t between the Leviticus passage that specifies death for gays and the election of Gene Robinson as an Episcopal Bishop ?

If you were older I would say Orwell modeled his "New speak" on your thinking.

Tom, you like history. Look at the Catholic church. Tell me how an institution that ran the freaking inquistion is now anti-death penalty using the same Bible.

[Magoo541]

"...we are a nation of laws, not of men"  (John Adams) We really have to refrain from rushing to judgement on these matters no matter how gruesome the crime. Oxbow is always around he corner for each of us, otherwise.

And when the leaders, elected or emergent,  ignore those laws then what? 

At our founding Supreme Court Justices could be removed for bad behavior.  Cursing in the court room cost one justice his robe, and getting drunk, in his private life no less, cost another his robe.  This was the environment that Adams stated the above, not that I think we ought not adhere to the law but we ought to return to those principles we were founded on and apply them uniformly. 

A long winded way of saying I agree

That's what DRTV gets when I'm stuck in a hotel too far from home with nothing to do (my airsoft is too loud for the wedding party that is also staying at our swank hotel  )

[tombogan03884]

Tom, you like history. Look at the Catholic church. Tell me how an institution that ran the freaking inquistion is now anti-death penalty using the same Bible.

WTF
You need to go back and reread this thread.
You and and I are not having the same conversation.

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[fightingquaker13]

And when the leaders, elected or emergent,  ignore those laws then what? 

At our founding Supreme Court Justices could be removed for bad behavior.  Cursing in the court room cost one justice his robe, and getting drunk, in his private life no less, cost another his robe.  This was the environment that Adams stated the above, not that I think we ought not adhere to the law but we ought to return to those principles we were founded on and apply them uniformly. 

A long winded way of saying I agree

That's what DRTV gets when I'm stuck in a hotel too far from home with nothing to do (my airsoft is too loud for the wedding party that is also staying at our swank hotel   )

Bring it out at the after party and hand it to one of the bridesmades. It should be worth the trouble.

[Magoo541]

Bring it out at the after party and hand it to one of the bridesmades. It should be worth the trouble.

They'll be gone a while but the staff is on to me... and when they do return I plan on being by the pool organizing the races

[Jrlobo]

Magoo, that wasn't a "shotgun" wedding was it? OMG, how I just love guns. Do they have silencers for air softs? Do we have to do the BATF dance if they do? Sorry for all the questions, but I have to suspect anyone who agrees with me...especially one who could have brought an air soft to a shotgun wedding (sorta like bringing a knife to a gun fight).

[fightingquaker13]

Magoo, that wasn't a "shotgun" wedding was it? OMG, how I just love guns. Do they have silencers for air softs? Do we have to do the BATF dance if they do? Sorry for all the questions, but I have to suspect anyone who agrees with me...especially one who could have brought an air soft to a shotgun wedding (sorta like bringing a knife to a gun fight).

Any silencer is regulated if it can, in the BATFs view, be put on real gun. This sucks as there are lots of airgun suppresors made in Europe with zero regulation, which is just weird as their gun laws are so restrictive otherwise. I'd love one for my pellet guns for back yard pest control purposes, but I can't do it without the tax stamp, which ain't gonna happen in my county, even if I could afford it.

[Magoo541]

Magoo, that wasn't a "shotgun" wedding was it? OMG, how I just love guns. Do they have silencers for air softs? Do we have to do the BATF dance if they do? Sorry for all the questions, but I have to suspect anyone who agrees with me...especially one who could have brought an air soft to a shotgun wedding (sorta like bringing a knife to a gun fight).

I don't know, didn't see much of the wedding party.  Apparently up here in Central Wisconsin they are a lot more mellow than other parts of the country when it comes to weddings and the resulting parties.

I think I'm going to improvise a TP roll silencer with some masking tape for an attaching method.  I may even build a trap out of some plastic coated paper I have access to to keep those little suckers from bouncing all over the room.  Then I'll use the hotels printer to print out some targets and my phone's IPSC shot timer for some drills 












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