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Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« on: October 28, 2012, 11:39:07 AM »
From NewsMax 10/28

President Obama has been largely silent about gun control during his first term, but many gun owners have expressed concerns that he would address the issue if he is re-elected and no longer constrained by re-election worries.

Gun control advocates who have also stayed relatively quiet during Obama’s first term are already coming forward. The Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research has issued a new report whose recommendations include the regulation of gun designs and banning “problem drinkers” from owning firearms.

The Insider Report disclosed in April that Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, told the audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference that Obama “intends to destroy the Second Amendment” during his second term.

LaPierre said: "All of our Second Amendment liberty, all of the rights we've worked so hard to defend, all of what we know is good and right about America — all of it could be lost if Barack Obama is re-elected."

And he asserted that Obama has not pursued an anti-gun agenda during his first term because of a "political calculation" aimed at NRA supporters and gun owners who might oppose him in his re-election bid.

In its report, the Johns Hopkins Center, an arm of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said “there are enormous economic costs associated with gun violence in the U.S.,” claiming that firearm-related deaths and injuries resulted in medical and lost productivity expenses of about $32 billion in one recent year — as well as around 30,000 deaths and more than 335,000 injuries a year.

The Center’s "Case for Gun Policy Reforms in America" argues that the Second Amendment doesn't prevent lawmakers from strengthening gun laws that are already on the books, CNS News noted in an article about the Center’s report.

Among its recommendations:

    Increase the number of “high-risk individuals” who are prohibited from possessing guns by extending the ban on firearms ownership to people convicted of misdemeanors involving violence, people who committed felonies as juveniles, and alcoholics and problem drinkers.
    Raise the minimum age for buying a gun from 18 to 21.
    Regulate gun sales between private individuals who are not licensed gun dealers. The Brady Law requires prospective buyers to pass a background check only if they are purchasing the gun from a licensed firearms dealer.
    Boost regulation and oversight of gun sellers.
    Eliminate so-called “right-to-carry” laws, which allow individuals who are not legally barred from possessing firearms to carry concealed weapons in public either by making it easy to get a permit to do so or by not requiring permits at all. The laws “do not make us safer and likely increase aggravated assaults,” the Center argues, rejecting research that shows just the opposite, CNS News observed.
    Regulate the design of guns. "Not all firearms are created equal," the report states. “Aside from ammunition capacity, other characteristics of firearms that are relevant to public safety include how easily the gun can be concealed, and how prone it is to misfire or fire unintentionally.”
    Reintroduce the now-expired 1994 ban on assault weapons and large capacity magazines.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has said he does not favor “new pieces of legislation” on guns – “or making certain guns illegal.”

President Obama has called for enforcing the laws already on the books and for reintroducing the ban on assault weapons.

Obama's strategy, according to the NRA’s LaPierre, is to "get re-elected and, with no more elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearm freedom — erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and excise it from the U.S. Constitution."

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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 11:18:43 PM »
This from pro-gun Mitt  Romney:  1994: backed 5-day waiting period on gun sales
In 1994 Romney pushed some reliably Republican themes, including requiring welfare recipients to work, cracking down on crime, and creating private-sector jobs. But he often strayed from the party plank as he sought to broaden his base of support. He backed two gun-control measures that were strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association: the Brady Law, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales, and a ban on certain assault weapons, saying, "I think they will help."
Source: The Real Romney, by Kranish & Helman, p.185 , Jan 17, 2012

Find common ground with pro-gun & anti-gun groups
Q: You signed the nation's first ban on assault weapons in Massachusetts and steeply increased fees on gun owners by 400%. How can you convince gun owners that you will be an advocate for them?

ROMNEY: We had a piece of legislation that was crafted both by the pro-gun lobby and the anti-gun lobby. The pro-gun lobby said "this legislation allows us to cross roads with weapons when we're hunting that had not been previously allowed." And the day when we announced our signing, we had both the pro-gun owners and anti-gun folks all together on the stage because it worked. We worked together. We found common ground. My view is that we have the second amendment right to bear arms and my view is also that we should not add new legislation. I know that there are people that think we need new laws. I disagree with that. I believe we have in place all the laws we need. We should enforce those laws. I do not believe in new laws restricting gun ownership and gun use.
Source: Fox News debate on MLK Day in Myrtle Beach, SC , Jan 16, 2012
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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 08:27:25 AM »
Your information is not good, go to  http://www.goal.org/ to get the truth .

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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 10:06:54 AM »
As they say in The Captain and Commander: It's a choice between two weevils; which one is the lesser.
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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 10:40:32 AM »
jrlobo, If you are going to respond on multiple threads with the same sentiment I can do the same:

It is time to eliminate the pessimism from our lives.  I am sick and tired of people "picking from the lesser of two evils!"  There is a choice that it better than the other, and we vote for the better of the two.  If you can't find a good reason to vote for someone you are no better than Reid and his assertion that he will not work with Gov. Romney if he becomes President.

Chuck Swindal says "Life is 10% what happens to us and 90% how we react to it."  You can choose the outcome of your life, and if you are going to be negative I can predict where you will end up.

Now get out and vote for the better of the two choices in each and every section of your ballot!
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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 12:18:01 AM »
Your information is not good, go to  http://www.goal.org/ to get the truth .
How do you you know my information is no good?
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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2012, 08:59:15 AM »
Because it is not verified by the Massachusetts state gun owners organization.

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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 10:08:11 AM »
Because it is not verified by the Massachusetts state gun owners organization.

Of which I've been a member for the last 10 years.

Things would be worse than every other state in the union if our current Governor had been in office during that time frame.  The legislature was and still is 85% leftist with a few RINO's mixed in to make it look like a democracy.  Scott Brown is a perfect example of that.....as to the fees, I'll pay what I have to and yes they went up but the length of time to renew went up by two years as well. 

Remember, Romney did cut taxes and increase fees but user fees only affect those that require that service.  Everyone else gets a break.

Either way, it's over, done and history.  I'll be taking a break from politics until I decide if my vote here matters at all anymore.  Even Tom's beloved New Hampshire has been decimated.  I think they should take their state motto and change it to "Massholes Go Home!"

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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2012, 12:17:55 PM »
m58,

      Did you mean Sen Reid (from NV), who is the Senate Majority Leader? I used the example from the movies because it was humorous there and was meant to be humorous here. If you don't take it that way, that's your prerogative. I was responding to what I saw as pessimism being expressed to the point of carping. I try not to use color in my comments so as not to belittle the opinions of others, even though I may disagree with them. There is work to be done if we are to survive the next 4 years. We are all frustrated with what has happened in the election and with our fears of what may come. I feel we need to get past this stage and move toward positive actions to better our lives and those of our children and grandchildren. I'm open to positive ideas on what we should do next. I do not even know where to start here in the PRM anymore.
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Re: Report Urges New Bans on Firearms
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2012, 01:16:00 PM »
Of which I've been a member for the last 10 years.

Things would be worse than every other state in the union if our current Governor had been in office during that time frame.  The legislature was and still is 85% leftist with a few RINO's mixed in to make it look like a democracy.  Scott Brown is a perfect example of that.....as to the fees, I'll pay what I have to and yes they went up but the length of time to renew went up by two years as well. 

Remember, Romney did cut taxes and increase fees but user fees only affect those that require that service.  Everyone else gets a break.

Either way, it's over, done and history.  I'll be taking a break from politics until I decide if my vote here matters at all anymore.  Even Tom's beloved New Hampshire has been decimated.  I think they should take their state motto and change it to "Massholes Go Home!"

The last election proves that it's to late, every one of the socialists won.  >:(

 

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