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tombogan03884

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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2012, 11:30:01 PM »
Maybe BHO should put down Alinsky long enough to read Sun Tzu?

I would prefer if my enemies hadn't read either one of them, they are somewhat interchangable and I would bet that along with Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao, Alinsky did indeed read Sun Tzu.

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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2012, 06:36:38 AM »
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 I'm sure they'll have an article on the ADM and why he was transferred shortly

Maybe you can post that for us.  I would also want to know who his direct boss was and what legislator got his boss the appointment.  Of course, we all know that doesn't matter, right?  There aren't any "yes boys" who focus on career advancement in the military....right?   

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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2012, 08:21:51 AM »
Maybe BHO should put down Alinsky long enough to read Sun Tzu?
No.. He needs to trot his narrow hind end out to meet with the people he was sending that Ambassador out to do his business with, and do what he seems so ready to have done for him..  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2012, 08:36:02 AM »
No.. He needs to trot his narrow hind end out to meet with the people he was sending that Ambassador out to do his business with, and do what he seems so ready to have done for him..  >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2012, 08:39:16 AM »
Maybe you can post that for us.  I would also want to know who his direct boss was and what legislator got his boss the appointment.  Of course, we all know that doesn't matter, right?  There aren't any "yes boys" who focus on career advancement in the military....right?   

In the mean time read this one...

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/11/general-failure/309148/?single_page=true
When seconds mean the difference between life and death, the police will be minutes away.

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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
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tombogan03884

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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2012, 09:31:23 AM »
Thanks for posting that J.
Seems to me that 3 of the biggest problems with modern military leadership are,
1) the military Branches are not corporations and cannot be "managed" as if they were.
2) The current mindset of the officer corps is more focused on "ticket punching" than on destroying the enemies will and ability to resist.
3) You can not achieve victory until you can define it in one short sentence.

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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2012, 12:13:54 AM »
This appears to be no more than an observation, but damned if it doesn't fit as well as anyghint with what we know so far..
(I don't suspect that the author is suggesting that the sinking of HMS Bounty during the storm is what he was thinking here..)

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A1084086&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

US military planned mutiny on the Bounty to topple Obama

    Posted by Ralph E Wall,Sr,Admin on November 1, 2012 at 2:37pm in Tea Party
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Today, Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette was “fired” from his command of one of the three carrier battle groups back to Bremerton, Washington to face an investigation.

It is impossible to adequately state how unusual this is and how serious.

The Navy was clear that the charges had nothing to do with his personal conduct, no rape or sexual misconduct, no stolen money, no drug use, the things that usually bring down in the Navy, that and crashing ships into each other.

Gaouette was sent back because the Secretary of Defense found him unfit for command, sent him across the world in the middle of one of the largest combat exercises in history, one both timed prior to an election and one at a critical location, near the Straits of Hormuz in the Persian
Gulf.

Gaouette commanded nearly one third of the Naval and air combat forces in the region.

The decision was made based on a conversation with the Secretary of Defense who, at the end of the talk, believed Gaouette was part of a group of military officers who have been under suspicion for planning a “Seven Days in May” type overthrow of the US government if President Obama is re-elected.
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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2012, 06:45:54 AM »
You need to find better sources Santahog.  A forum post with no way to verify its veracity to implicate a Carrier Strike Group Commander in a possible coup attempt?  Really?

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/10/navy-stennis-carrier-strike-group-commander-sent-home-charles-gaouette-102712w/

"Inappropriate leadership judgement" usually means actions like purposely putting your ship on a collision course with another, taking undue risk or simply bad desicion making. 
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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2012, 07:15:15 AM »
"Inappropriate leadership judgement" usually means actions like purposely putting your ship on a collision course with another, taking undue risk or simply bad desicion making. 

Or cussing out a superior when you are refusing to stand down and calling them out on leaving people behind?
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Re: Purge, or just CYA?..
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2012, 08:38:04 AM »
"Inappropriate leadership judgement"  would be exactly what would be charged  if the "coup" charge were correct.
It gets him into custody with out the absolute uproar that would occur if the actual facts became public.
The article Santahog linked listed no sources, how ever it restores my hope that at least some of our military leadership place greater emphasis on their duty, and their oath to the Constitution than on enhancing their careers .
It would not be the first time that US Naval Officers knowingly sacrificed their careers in the name of America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_the_Admirals

The Revolt of the Admirals is a name given to an episode that took place in the late 1940s in which several United States Navy admirals and high-ranking civilian officials publicly disagreed with the President and the Secretary of Defense's strategy and plans for the military forces in the early Post-War period.

 

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