I Believe In Our Republic

[Jrlobo]

billt,

      The rural map of America is where all the oil is, the food is, the coal is,  the solar panel and wind farms are. They depend on cheap labor to feed the free-loading masses in the cities. Why can't we in rural America begin to form a coalition with cheap labor, a power block, to force the cities to our will? The cities after all are more dependent upon us than we on them. Major corporations like big oil, corporate farms, etc., will join us. We need to break up the monopoly Democrats have on minorities, the major source of cheap labor. Offer those minorities a better deal and they will come over. Now, that's class warfare we can dig!

[tombogan03884]

We are beginning to sound just like the wimps we pretend to detest. I wonder what Custer was thinking at the Little Big Horn? Look at all those MFing Democrats? No, more likely, "if Reno shows up now I'm going to kick his ass"! We, gentlemen, have to figure out how we get our Republic back. Remember what Ben Franklin said: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch; Liberty is an armed lamb contesting the vote. Like it or not, we are the lamb now.

The answer to that, if posted publicly , will put "black helicopters" over your roof and FBI agents on your door step.
We've tried the soap box,
we've tried the ballot box,
there's only one box left.

[Jrlobo]

billt,

      Reality is what you accept. We can sit here and complain about what is going to be done to us or we can figure out what we need to do to prevent those things from happening. Sitting and complaining have gotten us to where we are. We need to act to stem the tide. We are not helpless sheep. I, for one, did not spend 47 years of my life defending this nation to sit back and accept the reality you present. And, I'm betting you don't want to either. Why don't we become the squeaky wheel and show our strength? The Tea party flexed its muscle once and forced people to listen, then they lost their zeal for revolution, got complacent. The American spirit cannot be that fickle. First, groups like the NRA and GOA have to unite, put aside their petty differences and fiefdoms and all of us march on Washington, clog the streets, etc. and let them government boys know we aren't just a bunch of lobbyists spreading free money. There are other coalitions to be built to expand that movement to rural America, cheap labor, oil, coal, gas, food farms, dairy farms, cattle farms that can create inroads into the Democrat monopolies. If we wait 4 years to try another election gambit, that is just what the Democrats want. They will erode this country into a dependency state from which we will not recover. Let's start something now. Let's not wait and see. Dreaming? You bet I am. To do otherwise is to die.

      In a past thread, some of you asked how we convert this forum into something more meaningful. Well, let's figure out how we spread our thoughts outside this forum to start a movement. Tom, FQ, m58...put our brains to work on something "meaningful".

[billt]

Here is yet another fact we learned last night. It doesn't matter what your record is. Negative campaigning works. Even if it's all you have to run with. Just call your opponent a jag off long enough, and keep the free stuff coming, and your in. Hussein proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. 24 hours ago I never would have believed it. I should have because I was born and raised in Chicago.

[jaybet]

JRlobo has a point. I for one am so tired of hoping that a guy I really wasn't very interested in beat a guy I despise. And now I'm crestfallen because a bunch of retards (Oooohh I  used the "R" word) and abunch of racists won the election over common sense. But I kinda done worrying about it- it takes too much energy.
I'll resist, I'll argue, I'll send some money when I have it. He doesn't have a rubber stamp on those justices- the conservatives can fight and torpedo the bastards if they have any skeletons in their closets. Our guys have to play as dirty as Axelrod. (David Goebbels).

I'm ready to talk about guns again.

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[tombogan03884]

I've heard of 2 ways to communicate online.
1) An E Mail account where you write your message and leave it as a draft others using the same account log on, read the draft, nothing ever actually gets sent anywhere.
2) Steganography, Is where they compress the information and insert it as one pixel in a picture. This however takes knowledge and special software.
Encryption is a waste of time, there is no commercial encryption system that cannot be read by the NSA or England's GCHQ.
Codes have some use, any one based on an alphanumeric key would be easily broken by the above agencies how ever the "book code" can only be reliably broken if the specific key is known.

[Jrlobo]

Tom,

      I wouldn't fear the black helicopter, just the men who are in it! I don't advocate armed insurrection, but I do advocate we act like men and not sheep. I don't want to accept that my republic is dead, but I can see that it can be if we do nothing. I am advocating we broaden our reach and bring in many of those who currently see us as the "enemy" that BHO says we are. If we succeed, then we won't need to consider others in this country as our "enemies". It's a movement we should advocate, not a revolution. As for choppers, they fly over my house regularly...en route to and from Camp David carrying you know who. Regular black ones, too. I'll never hear the special black one if it comes for me and can't think of a reason why it would.

[tombogan03884]

The Republic has been dead ever since people accepted FDR's substitution of the word "Democracy" for the phrase "the Republic", like "clip", and "magazine", or "stupid" and "ignorant", they are not interchangeable.
As for the armed insurrection, if you can find me one other practical method for a minority to take charge of a brainwashed opposed majority I'm all for it.
On a side note this is the anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution. ( different calender, their style it was Oct, Western style it was Nov. 7 1917 )

[lhprop1]

My biggest fear is the 3 or 4 supreme court justices who could kick the bucket or retire at any second.  If they do, it's bye-bye 2A.

Other than that, we bounced back from the mess that stupid peanut farmer left us in, we can bounce back from this commie.  All we need is for someone like Ronnie to step up and take the bull by the nuts.

[billt]

billt,

      Reality is what you accept. We can sit here and complain about what is going to be done to us or we can figure out what we need to do to prevent those things from happening. Sitting and complaining have gotten us to where we are.
 

I accept the FACT that conservative Republicans can no longer win elections in this country because there aren't enough of them to defeat the majority of liberal democrats out there.

FACT: You have a nation on the economic brink of disaster.

FACT: You have a government that can not exist without borrowing and spending more than ONE TRILLION DOLLARS more than they take in every year from now until eternity.

FACT:You now are going to have a President for another 4 years who hates our military, along with Israel, while at the same time embraces muslims. He is also going to gut military spending down to the bone, making us all even more vulnerable.

FACT: You are going to have a shift in the power of the Supreme Court to the liberal left, and there is nothing that can realistically be done about it. This will continue to enhance the corrosion process of our freedoms for a lifetime to come.

Now you can sound like John Belushi in, "Animal House", when he gave his speech before they wrecked the Homecoming Parade, but it isn't going to matter. If the country wasn't fed up enough last night with this guy, what makes you think they will be in another 4 years? They like Obama. They want Obama. They will want another like him in 4 years. So where does that allow for any positive thinking? It doesn't. Conservatives in this country are like the Americans on Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania. We have nowhere to go but down. Instead of criticizing my attitude, tell me how, in realistic terms, you think this can be turned around politically, when you have an increasing electorate of idiots who don't care about anything in this country, except what the government can give them? My flag is too tattered to wave anymore.