I Believe In Our Republic

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My flag is too tattered to wave anymore.

'不客气'  to USSA

[billt]

billt,

      The rural map of America is where all the oil is, the food is, the coal is,  the solar panel and wind farms are. They depend on cheap labor to feed the free-loading masses in the cities. Why can't we in rural America begin to form a coalition with cheap labor, a power block, to force the cities to our will? The cities after all are more dependent upon us than we on them. Major corporations like big oil, corporate farms, etc., will join us. We need to break up the monopoly Democrats have on minorities, the major source of cheap labor. Offer those minorities a better deal and they will come over. Now, that's class warfare we can dig!

That is simply a "Red Dawn" mentality that will never happen. You couldn't possibly form a "Coalition" to block anything the government could not take. If you're talking about going to guns over this, then all bets are off. The problem with another civil war is the government was on the winning side last time. Where do you think they'll be this time?

[billt]

We need to break up the monopoly Democrats have on minorities, the major source of cheap labor. Offer those minorities a better deal and they will come over.

How can you offer them a "better deal"? The only way is to give them more stuff. We can't afford the stuff we're giving them now. Purchasing votes from idiots isn't the way to save this country. It's the main reason why it's being lost. We used to be a nation that was tolerant of minorities. Now, we've become a nation that is obsessed with them. That has been our downfall. You cannot reverse that by "buying" more of them.

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When the anointed hussein made the coment that blacks and hispanics are back bone and base of our nation "these days"
Offer them WHAT jr?
WHAT is exactly better than MY money so they can stay home and tell me I need to pay MORE TO THEM so I can feel better about myself while I'm paying MY fair share?


Carrot - stick - welfare

[JC5123]

Am I alone in hoping for economic collapse? I see it as the fastest and surest way to eliminate the cancer (welfare) and restore a constitutional republic. Because they only way I see to get back to personal respnsibility is to starve off the leaches. The people who take care of their own will make it. (It won't be easy, but we're a resilient bunch) and the people waiting for FEMA will perish.

On a side note: The Constitution was written so that only LANDOWNERS could vote. This ensured those voting had a stake in what was being decided. Why did that ever change?

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[JoeG]

I am fed up too but I see it a little different. We got successful by allowing our people to make things and selling them to the world and accumulate the wealth. the last 40 years we have outsourced most of the making things and have carried on with the good life by spending all that accumulated wealth (and then some!).  The only way this changes is when the leaches in DC have spent all the money and all the credit they can claw out of us. Then they will announce that the problem is unsolvable and that they "never tried harder..." and go home.

We are finally committed to the fast track off the cliff. when we hit bottom then we MIGHT have a chance to kick this silly addiction. Until then my plan is to keep my powder dry and take care of my family. the real question will be if we can fend off the Islamists during this period of decay. VD Hansen does a great job of showing how Islamic expansion has historically been into civilizations that lost their moral compass and were in decay (like the current EU). They give lost people a set of clear simple rules with serious consequences that they can follow. All they have to give up is their liberty and humanity which isn't putting food on the table so why not.

The USA and Israel are still the two most innovative places in the world, so in my mind it is race between technology and barbarism. We are not going to "take the country back" as all there is once you take it back is same mess amplified  with ungrateful blame frosting. Ignorance is curable, stupid is for life. George Washington had it right:

However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796

Keeping my eye on my front sight.

 

[JoeG]

Am I alone in hoping for economic collapse? I see it as the fastest and surest way to eliminate the cancer (welfare) and restore a constitutional republic. Because they only way I see to get back to personal respnsibility is to starve off the leaches. The people who take care of their own will make it. (It won't be easy, but we're a resilient bunch) and the people waiting for FEMA will perish.

On a side note: The Constitution was written so that only LANDOWNERS could vote. This ensured those voting had a stake in what was being decided. Why did that ever change?

Looks like you are not the only one since I wrote my post the same time as you!

[billt]

Am I alone in hoping for economic collapse? I see it as the fastest and surest way to eliminate the cancer (welfare) and restore a constitutional republic.

Collapse will do just the opposite. It will install an all powerful, God like government that will severely punish you if you even so much as think about disobeying their mandates, whatever they may be. You don't want an economic collapse. Believe me there will be no, "getting it over with". It will just accelerate more of what you saw last night. As Hussein's buddy Rahm Emmanuel said, "Never let a good crisis go to waste!" A economic crisis will empower the government even further, and completely erode what little freedom we have left.

[tombogan03884]

Am I alone in hoping for economic collapse? I see it as the fastest and surest way to eliminate the cancer (welfare) and restore a constitutional republic. Because they only way I see to get back to personal respnsibility is to starve off the leaches. The people who take care of their own will make it. (It won't be easy, but we're a resilient bunch) and the people waiting for FEMA will perish.

On a side note: The Constitution was written so that only LANDOWNERS could vote. This ensured those voting had a stake in what was being decided. Why did that ever change?

If we manage, by whatever means, to get back on track that is one of two major changes that would be required to the Constitution, no vote for any one not self supporting, (to many "affluent" people living in apartments for it to be based strictly on land ownership )
The other would be to make all offices contingent on "good moral character" like SCOTUS, no more "House ethics committee" if you are caught at some thing you go to jail for what you did plus more time for abuse of public trust.
Don't be surprised if I don't post much on this thread, many of you are stating what I'm thinking, so unless I see something I think was missed I really can't add anything.

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Ethics..... a word in a book - right?

Book?