Benghazi - First Casualty?

[Rastus]

Not the first casualty.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-868910

[Jrlobo]

Rastus, I stand corrected. Thanks for reminding me.

Unfortunately Petraeus was being courted by Republicans to consider running in 2016. Obama killed two birds with one stone there: neutralizing a rival to Democrats and a testifier before Congress. Good question if he can be invited to testify in classified session before Congress. He is fully covered under NDA's for life. If the Army wants to reinstate him to try disciplinary action against him and reinstates his security clearances ( at least some) in the process? Nah, SecDef won't let that happen. Too late for him to be a Deep Throat. It is clear to all the others that Obama will go to any length to keep from being impeached, ANY LENGTH! He's probably got something on every player by now. The only way this breaks open is if Petraeus falls completely on his sword and goes public in defiance of all laws and POTUS. Don't count that out!

[tombogan03884]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-trey-gowdy-either-petraeus-will-testify-voluntarily-over-benghazi-or-we-will-subpoena-him/

Rep. Trey Gowdy: Either Petraeus Will Testify Voluntarily Over Benghazi or We Will Subpoena Him

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) on Friday vowed to subpoena outgoing CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus if he won’t testify voluntarily about the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi, Libya.

Gowdy said that while he regretted the “personal ramifications” of Petraeus’ sudden resignation over an extramarital affair, it would not stop Congress from hearing from him about the assault on the consulate that left four Americans dead.

“The fact that he’s resigned and had an affair has nothing to do with whether or not he’s gonna be subpoenaed to Congress,” Gowdy said on Fox News’ “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren.” “I hope we don’t have to subpoena a four-star general and the former CIA director, I hope he would come voluntarily, but if he won’t he will be subpoenaed and none of what has happened today is a defense to a subpoena.”

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[jnevis]

Where is the loss of his clearance coming from?  Yes, the affair shows poor judgement and can be used to blackmail him but is nt an automatic disqualifier.  If the cables in question are not Compartmentalized he would technically still be eligible for Secret and TS.
Supposedly the affair has been going on for a while and the FBI was investigating him for a couple months, before Bengahzi.
Ham we know why, but CSG3 info hasn't officially been released so I'd hold off saying he was a casualty.  Unfortunately lately Navy Skippers and other senior leaders have been getting caught more and more being stupid/drunk while on deployment

[tombogan03884]

Where is the loss of his clearance coming from?  Yes, the affair shows poor judgement and can be used to blackmail him but is nt an automatic disqualifier.  If the cables in question are not Compartmentalized he would technically still be eligible for Secret and TS.
Supposedly the affair has been going on for a while and the FBI was investigating him for a couple months, before Bengahzi.
Ham we know why, but CSG3 info hasn't officially been released so I'd hold off saying he was a casualty.  Unfortunately lately Navy Skippers and other senior leaders have been getting caught more and more being stupid/drunk while on deployment

With an administration that hates the US military one has to ask "how valid are these allegations"

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[jnevis]

With an administration that hates the US military one has to ask "how valid are these allegations"

I'm just putting it out there.  Do I think he probably told State and SECDEF to F off, probably, but the allegations haven't been released so given the other O6s getting caught doing stupid $h!t lately it isn't surprising. 

[tombogan03884]

I'm just putting it out there.  Do I think he probably told State and SECDEF to F off, probably, but the allegations haven't been released so given the other O6s getting caught doing stupid $h!t lately it isn't surprising. 

But were the O6's actually doing stupid shit or were they just accused and told resign or we'll court martial you and send you to prison ?

[jnevis]

 One other thing to remember about ADM Gaoutte is that ANYTHING leaving the Gulf to Libya would have to get permission  for overflight authorization from Iraq and Israel at least. That takes hours and even the most cavalier officer would know that his units would get on station after the fact.  The CSG in the Med would be closer and wouldn't need permission from anybody outside our chain of command.  Would really suck to send a rescue force to get them shot down by the Israelis.

But were the O6's actually doing stupid shit or were they just accused and told resign or we'll court martial you and send you to prison ?

Multiple instances of abuse to junior officers, hazing, and drunk and disorderly reported by multiple crewmembers.One CO point her pistol at Es during a security drill.  Another CO got so drunk during a port visit to Vlad he had to be brought to the pier by the police.  Yeah, they were actually doing stupid shit.

[santahog]

Everything we're seeing here is straight out of the KGB 101 "How To" handbook..
I see a purge going on.
I think Petraeus went to Benghazi, got pissed off at what he saw, and became a loose cannon to the Administration at that point..
He didn't get to finish his report, per the news.. I think he either did, or told the wrong person what he was gonna say in it..
I think all of what we're seeing is so basic to what we all know is happening. They've seized the television stations. Now they're eliminating the people of stature/useful idiots who compromised/went along, for honor or personal advancement.
I'm going with my lyin eyes here..

[Jrlobo]

Standard procedure in Petraeus' case is to debrief him of all clearances upon resignation. He resigns NDAs at that point. He can appeal to retain some clearances if he can show need for further employment AND it is acceptable to the U.S. Government. That's the kicker here: the U.S. Government must approve for him to retain any clearances. If, as we believe, he is being forced out so as not to testify before Congress of what he knows by virtue of his classified accesses, then the U.S. Government will not make the mistake of granting him any clearances. I believe this is controlled totally by the executive branch. He would have to go public and risk prosecution for defying any NDAs he may have signed. Congress might grant him immunity for his testimony, but violation of his NDAs is a Justice Department matter.

If the Petraeus affair becomes a national security issue, like some are really trying to make it, then all bets are off regarding his testimony. He could be indicted and tried in the court of public opinion. I'd put him on suicide watch at that point (Adm Boorda comes to mind).

As for Admiral G, damn the torpedoes full speed ahead gets you torpedoed in this administration. Every Democrat President wants to be Truman vs MacArthur to demonstrate civilian authority over the military, it's in their jeans (pun intended).