Traveling with a long gun in addition to CCW

[tombogan03884]

Read the post Tom, I said UNLOADED. That's the beauty of the AR. It takes about five seconds to slap a mag in.Until then, perfectly legal. Seriously, no one can deploy a long gun instantly in a vehicle, that's what pistols are for. But if you keep an unloaded rifle behind the seat in your truck, and a mag in the door panel or console, you can deploy it in less than a minute if you know trouble is coming. Until then, you are just transporting a perfectly legal weapon.

You need to reread the post you're arguing with, the 1st 4 words you quoted were "they can't be loaded. (Like you apparently are.)

[santahog]

At the risk of going against the prevailing wisdom here.. I'd have to go with the shotgun. A SAIGA, perhaps, mounted up against the headliner. (In a perfect world..)
This was an either/or question, wasn't it?

[Majer]

. But if you keep an unloaded rifle behind the seat in your truck, and a mag in the door panel or console, you can deploy it in less than a minute if you know trouble is coming. Until then, you are just transporting a perfectly legal weapon.

FQ,I don't know about other states,but here in NY if you have an uncased long gun and ammo accessible in the passenger compartment you are transporting a "loaded" fire arm.There has to be 2 motions separating the firearm from the ammo to be legal.So the gun would have to be in a case and the ammo in the trunk or glovebox or an ammo box.

[fightingquaker13]

Ok, in my console (middle seat divider), its a flip top box like the glove box. So, motion one, reach for the rifle. Motion two, get it out. Motion three, open the console (or glove box). Motion four, load the mag. Motion five, chamber the round. That seems to clear the hurdle with room to spare. Look, I am always in favor of erring on the side of caution where gun laws (even stupid ones) are concerned, as even if you win it will be an expensive victory. BUT, I don't see any law that requires a locked case or anything like that. My only point was that for road SD a rifle with a detachable mag can be transported unloaded and armed with a mag a lot quicker than an unloaded tube fed shotgun.

[MikeBjerum]

Is there a reason for us getting bogged down in detailed squables here?  Well, outside of the fact that we like to argue of course.

Let rj check out the laws as he travels from state to state, just like the rest of us check them out as we travel with our self defense tools.

Can we now go back to his original question, or at least a drift that is enjoyable?

[Sponsor]

[fightingquaker13]

+10.
FQ

[Majer]

It's what we do 

Is this a more enjoyable thread drift?

[Majer]

Back to the OP,I would go with a Scoutrifle with detachable mags,You can have different types of ammo in the extra mags and less likelihood of raising questions should anyone see it.

[MikeBjerum]

It's what we do 

Is this a more enjoyable thread drift?

 

[mkm]

I choose to take the ar when I go.  It won't be an immediate access weapon, but it will be there.  If things go bad, I can make it ready and not give a crap about laws.  I choose it over a shotgun for several reasons.  

1) I'm envisioning an urban/suburban setting more than a rural one.  
2) I'm planning mostly for riots, large crowds, etc. and want increased capacity and speed.
3) I want increased accuracy at moderate ranges to keep crowds at bay farther.
4) Although not very comfortable, it is wearable (single point sling with stock collapsed) while I drive.

If I were located in a more rural setting where wildlife and/or wilderness survival was a priority, I would probably opt for the shotgun.

With the above said, what I really want is a Kel-tec sub2000 9mm carbine.  I really like the idea of being able to fold it up in a small inconspicuous package, use the same mags and ammo as my pistols, and still have increased range and accuracy.  It would probably become my primary truck gun, and the ar would only go if I was going somewhere with a known history of being dangerous (i.e. Memphis).

Also, briefly continuing the laws drift, a loaded magazine is considered a loaded weapon in some places, California I think.