141% VOTER TURNOUT.. Hmmm. Nothing to see here!!

[santahog]

FQ, did you have something to do with this???

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/florida-declares-west-has-lost-reelection-bid-despite-early-voting/


West challenges results as Florida declares vote-tally over amid recounts and irregularities

Published November 12, 2012

FoxNews.com

Florida Republican Rep. Allen West continues to challenge election officials' tallies that show he has lost his re-election bid – amid wild ballot swings on Tuesday and a partial recount needed because of voting-machine problems.

The Tea Party-backed West demanded a recount after the swing of votes on election night, leading Democratic challenger Patrick Murphy by roughly 2,000 votes, then trailing by 2,400 votes about 35 minutes later.

Officials said Saturday a final tally in the state’s 18th Congressional District shows Murphy had won by enough votes to avoid a full recount. But they then agreed to a partial recount of early votes in St. Lucie County after acknowledging some votes had been counted twice. That recount resulted in a minor changes in the numbers, with West still behind.

West and his campaign, though, objected to just a partial recount of votes cast Nov.1-3, arguing the irregularity calls for a full audit.

“If people are that adamant about getting rid of me, that’s fine,” West told Fox News on Monday. “But don’t do it at the expense of the integrity of our electoral process. That’s what disturbs me the most.”

The West team is singling out County Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker and requesting a comparison of voter signatures from all polling places with the total ballots counted because the numbers do not appear to match.

Officials have “already stated they had a 141 percent voter turnout, which I think should cause everyone alarm,” West told Fox.

He also said Murphy officials were allowed to observe the Sunday recount, but West’s were not.

St. Lucie County Assistant Attorney Heather Young told NBC-WPTV that the recount was related to computer memory cards that record the ballots when fed through voting machines.

Officials said Saturday that West lost by 2,442 votes. The partial recount changed the final tally by several hundred votes. But officials have not changed the final but unofficial outcome and say the new tally is not enough for a full recall election.

However, Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, a volunteer lawyer for West's campaign, thinks a full recount of early votes would give the congressman the extra votes needed to trigger an automatic recount.

“We're close, very close,” said Shapiro, a member Democratic Sen. John Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign team. “It would be irrational at this stage to concede without making sure that every single vote is counted and that the democratic process is preserved."

Officials also allowed for additional vote counting in Palm Beach County before issuing the tally Saturday.

West's only option now appears to be through the courts.

West, 51, is one of only two black Republicans in the House. He had a constant string of headline-grabbing statements, from calling a majority of congressional Democrats communists to saying President Obama, Rep. Nancy Pelosi and others should "get the hell out of the United States."

Murphy, 29, was a political newcomer who portrayed West as an extremist who has done little else in Washington than stoke partisan fires.

Fox News' Eric Shawn and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/florida-declares-west-has-lost-reelection-bid-despite-early-voting/#ixzz2C44M61V4

[fightingquaker13]

West is a carpet bagging A-hole who pulled a Hillary and beat a good GOP candidate in a district he's never lived in. As to the 140% thing? Our ballots, depending on which county you lived in, were either two or three pages long due to a number of ammendments. So, if you voted on the ammendments (lots of folks didn't as they were long and confusingly worded), you submitted two ballots, hence the discrepency. No shenenigans, just sour grapes. And ask yourself this. West's district went across three counties. He won in one and lost in two. He claimed fraud and corruption in the two where he lost, and yet didn't ask for a recount in the one where he won. Umm.........Gee, must be lucky there was one honest one hmm? And for the record, the GOP front runner before West swooped in with a $20 million out of state funded war chest endorsed the Dem.. Folks down South don't like carpet baggers. This race wasn't about ideology. It was about personality, lies, and showing disrespect to the locals. That isn't a winning combination anywhere.

[jp1]

If you seriously do not support Allen West you are truly not on the right side, he is a real American Patriot working for the right things. And any person that casts a vote based on personality is a total American Idol TV moron.  True honest Constitutional principles trump personality every time; if We the People vote on personality alone we have not only lost the Republic but our soul as well.

[tombogan03884]

JP1, FQ's total ignorance of real world politics is because he has a Phd in history and Poli/Sci.
He has all kinds of theoretical crap but no concept of practical application.

[jp1]

O.K. makes sense now.

[Sponsor]

[jp1]

One of our biggest problems is that our colleges are more about  Indoctrination instead of education, what is truly scary is that is exactly how Hitler did it.

[fightingquaker13]

If you seriously do not support Allen West you are truly not on the right side, he is a real American Patriot working for the right things. And any person that casts a vote based on personality is a total American Idol TV moron.  True honest Constitutional principles trump personality every time; if We the People vote on personality alone we have not only lost the Republic but our soul as well.

He's a "real American Patriot" who lied in his adds. He claimed that the Dem had voted for Bo's legislative agenda. News flash, the guy never held elective office. How could he have voted for anything? If you lie to me in a job interview how stupid would I have to be to give you the job? You've just proved you'll lie to my face.
West moved from his district to ours because he wouldn't be reelcted in his own, so he decided he'd swoop in with millions donated by out of staters and unseat a homeboy because he doesn't care which district he's in as long as he gets to be a Congressman. Never mind the fact he's never lived here, doesn't know our issues, never was involved with our community and was too damn cheap to pay for his own tickets to the NRA dinner, but insisted they be comped. He just just wants to pursue his own agenda and we were the means to do it. That's a slap in the face bro. Don't pretend its not. Screw the national parties. My local representative should by God be local. And Tom, that ain't academia speaking, thats Southern redneck pride. Two wholly different animals. You don't piss on a man's lawn and think you'll get his vote.

As to the Dem? He's a freshman rep in the minority party. His vote means jack and squat. He'll be beaten next election by a local GOP candidate unless he does a stellar job, in which case we all win. As it is, he won with a whole lot of GOP votes who were pissed off by West and he knows it. This includes the GOP front runner who West beat, and he took a whole lot of votes with him when he endorsed the Dem over issues of character as he put it. If  the Dem acts accordingly, its good, if not, he's out of a job in 2014.

[santahog]

And Tom, that ain't academia speaking, thats Southern redneck pride. Two wholly different animals. You don't piss on a man's lawn and think you'll get his vote...

You know, one of the most annoying things about being back in "the land of my birth" is that same old stupid ass Southern Redneck Pride, BII GAWD.. Moron shit kickers...
And you're wrong about West.. If I'd have known he was there and what he was about, I'd have re-upped just to work for the man.. There hasn't been a man in Washington in my lifetime with that kind of (actual, real deal) integrity..
Go burn up a set of mudders in front of the house.. It'll make you feel like a real man..
And by the way.. What "Proud Redneck" doesn't piss in the yard?.. We civilized now or something? Please..

[fightingquaker13]

You know, one of the most annoying things about being back in "the land of my birth" is that same old stupid ass Southern Redneck Pride, BII GAWD.. Moron shit kickers...
And you're wrong about West.. If I'd have known he was there and what he was about, I'd have re-upped just to work for the man.. There hasn't been a man in Washington in my lifetime with that kind of (actual, real deal) integrity..
Go burn up a set of mudders in front of the house.. It'll make you feel like a real man..
And by the way.. What "Proud Redneck" doesn't piss in the yard?.. We civilized now or something? Please..

Here's the deal Santa. I live in his (well, my district, not really his) district. You don't. On paper he sounds good, pro-2A, pro-military etc.. He got busted for threatening to shoot a Haji, what's not to love right?

Here's the problem. He lied, repeatedly in his adds, not exaggerations, just BS. And then there's the fact he moved 70 miles north to run in our district rather than his own because he knew he would lose. Was it because he cared about us and wanted to represent the local issues a Congressman should be concerned about, or just because he wanted to be in Congress and didn't give a rat's ass who he "represented" as long as he was in Washington? I think the answer is pretty clear.
 The whole point of the House of Representatives (emphasis on the word representative) is that they carry the concerns of their communities to the national government. Its kind of hard to do that if you've never lived there a day in your life. You may like his ideology, and frankly, I do do too. What I don't like are the lies and the sheer arrogance of an outsider swooping in to buy the votes of a district he'd never lived in. We had a perfectly good GOP candidate who would have won this race. He served this district for 30 years, he'd have won in a landslide. But guys like you who like to think that ideology and rhetoric trump local concerns were swayed by West's money and chutzpa. The guy is the GOP's answer to Hillary. Any New Yorker that voted for her should be ashamed, and the same is true for West voters here. If you don't live in a district, how the frak are you going to claim to represent them in Congress? I'm not voting for President here, I'm voting for representative, and the only person Allen West represents is Allen West.

[Solus]

FQ, need good references to the lies he told.  Should be other than the Dem's campaign ads.

I agree that is would not be a Good Thing for an outsider to move in and take the turf of an equally good and incumbent candidate.

Though the other candidate would have to be very good to compete with West.  Who was it?