Apple JUICE vs Apple CIDER

[tombogan03884]

::cough, cough:: bullshit ::cough, cough::

Oral Minoxidil was orignially for high blood pressure.
Patients noticed better hair growth + that's a bigger market = Rogaine

You can still buy Janitor in a Drum. 

Not according to news stories at the time.

[PegLeg45]

I tend to be wary of chemical agents, even vinegar, in uses like this.
Having worked in an industry that often used reactants like acids and bases along with metals like brass, copper, aluminum and such I can say that the erosion and resultant weakening of the metal can occur. Not a good thing in a pressurized vessel.

Any cleaning, such as dry tumbling will also erode the material over time, but some chemicals can do it way quicker.
Sometimes, finding a better way isn't always better than the old standard way.

[Steve Cover]

Two questions....
1. How do you make sticky reloads?  
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Back in the late 1960s I read an article about using motor honey as a case lube.
Worked wonderfully.
However, being designed to be used in an engine to eliminate wear, it had a very superior tack to it.

No matter how hard or long I wiped with a paper towel, the brass was still sticky with lube.

I don't remember what solvent bath I had to use to finally get the brass clean, but do remember that it was more expensive than just using commercial RCBS lube that easily wiped off with a paper towel.

I was afraid to load this sticky brass for fear of greatly increasing the bolt thrust from the cartridge not gripping the chamber walls under pressure.

Anyway, that is how someone can make sticky reloads.  (Sticky not slimy)

Steve

[Solus]

I guess I was spoiled.

After my first go at a lube pad and standard sizing dies, I became a convert to carbide and spray lube.

Would put the cases in the top of a shoe box with the base against the long edge, spray over them and past on the box top for a bit.  Lift then end and roll the cases down the lid and back.  Very light coat.  I wiped them with a rag before placing in a cartridge box, but never felt them to be sticky or even very oily.

[Steve Cover]

I guess I was spoiled.

After my first go at a lube pad and standard sizing dies, I became a convert to carbide and spray lube.

Would put the cases in the top of a shoe box with the base against the long edge, spray over them and past on the box top for a bit.  Lift then end and roll the cases down the lid and back.  Very light coat.  I wiped them with a rag before placing in a cartridge box, but never felt them to be sticky or even very oily.

I too am a big fan of spray lube... Even make my own.
It rubs off very easily.
The only reason that I tumble to remove lube is the volume of cartridges involved.
When loading small batches, it is easier for me to just wipe off the lube with a paper towel.

The gist of my last post was that choice of case lubricant was probably a factor in the situation being discussed.

Steve

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[Solus]

I understood...

The point of my post wasn't to disagree with you, but to note my range of experience there was limited.

[PegLeg45]

I too am a big fan of spray lube... Even make my own.
It rubs off very easily.

Steve

Interested to know your recipe.

[Steve Cover]

Interested to know your recipe.

My lube spray is simply anhydrous lanolin dissolved in pure alcohol from a hardware store.
(Not rubbing alcohol - it has water in it)
I’m moving to a new home next week and all of my records are boxed up so can’t quote the actual ratio of lanolin to alcohol.
However, I started low, and increased the lanolin slowly until the presence on sprayed brass was just detctible when the alcohol evaporated.
It isn't a rocket science formula.
My spray lube has worked well for me for a lot of years.

Steve

[PegLeg45]

Thanks for the reply.

I have store-bought lubes, but am always interested in the make-it-yourself route, as that is my general nature. 

I have heard others (some on here) that use stuff such as saddle soap, which has the lanolin in it.

[Steve Cover]

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I have heard others (some on here) that use stuff such as saddle soap, which has the lanolin in it.

I'm no chemist so don't know if saddle soap is hydroscopic.  (The soap part)
Introducing something that may attract water isn't something I want to subject my dies to.

The alcohol is reasonably priced and the jar of lanolin was expensive.

However, after about 30 years, I still have more than half a jar of the lanolin left and I reload a lot. (32 different cartridges)

For the average reloader, it is probably cheaper to just buy good commercial sizing lubes.
However, if you are a member of a club, a group buy of a jar of lanolin would be practical.
A couple of tablespoons goes a long way.

Steve