Author Topic: When is Glock going to evolve?  (Read 43115 times)

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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2008, 10:18:31 PM »
One smidge of evolution I'd like - just a skosh more basepad on the Glock 26/27 - not the huge block like on the Glock 30.

Enough for my pinkie finger. 

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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2008, 08:38:05 PM »
Many a company has rested on the laurels only to find themselves out'd overnight.   I've had the mis-fortune of working for a number of them.  Wang Labs, the original MCI, Sperry-Univac to name a few.

Walther, IMO, took it to the next level with the P99AS.  True SA/DA like a 1911, striker fired with a decocker and no manual safety.  It didn't (doesn't) have to be polymer, but that's what everybody craves.

And the Sig 250, though not hammerless, is a significant paradigm shift.   It'll be interesting to see if large buyers (LEOs) go for the concept.  If you're arming large numbers of people and have an armorer this seems to be very neat concept.

MS25OPERATOR:   Interchangeable backstraps go back at least to the Colt Match Target Woodsman, ~1950s.  Someone may have done it before then. 

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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2008, 04:29:40 AM »
If the XD can so can Glock!
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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2008, 10:56:00 AM »
When they need to.

When they can't compete/lose too many contracts because they don't have adjustable grips, ambi mag/slide release, manual/mag safety, field strip w/o pulling trigger, etc. Until then, not likely to see any of that evolutionary stuff on Gaston's original intelligent design.

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Update: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2008, 03:47:24 PM »
Try posting this on the Glock forum...The company might pay some attention to it there.  Remember change might be a good thing for Glock.  I for one (MOO) prefer the original frame without the finger grooves and I think they should offer that as an option but like my wife...they don't listen to me either.


Update: Done!

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10599013#post10599013
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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2008, 07:09:19 PM »
I could be wrong, but the new .50GI round upper conversion picked the Glock first. If I'm wrong I apologize. However, with sales and marketing it may be available for other brands soon. Like the M+P 8)

Is it an evolution? I don't know.


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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2008, 07:24:22 PM »
I could be wrong, but the new .50GI round upper conversion picked the Glock first. If I'm wrong I apologize. However, with sales and marketing it may be available for other brands soon. Like the M+P 8)

Is it an evolution? I don't know.


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As I understand it, it is not a Glock venture, but rather another company all together...... It is also available for the 1911 platform.
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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2008, 01:11:25 AM »
As I understand it, it is not a Glock venture, but rather another company all together...... It is also available for the 1911 platform.

Yes,I've seen ads for it in the last couple of American Rifleman magazines, It might have been Shooting Times. Of course I can't find the Darn ad now.

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Re: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2008, 03:41:58 AM »
ericire12 I hope your post on the Glock forum gets some attention from the higherups.  The loyal Glockaphiles are blind to change, as usual, and will never see your side (you make excellent points).  If Glocks were perfect the aftermarket business wouldn't exist.  If Glock is so busy making the perfect pistol why aren't they building and expanding and hiring and training to catch up with the backlog?

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Update: When is Glock going to evolve?
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2008, 11:00:08 AM »
Update: Those guys on "That other forum"


ericire12 I hope your post on the Glock forum gets some attention from the higherups.  The loyal Glockaphiles are blind to change, as usual, and will never see your side (you make excellent points).  If Glocks were perfect the aftermarket business wouldn't exist.  If Glock is so busy making the perfect pistol why aren't they building and expanding and hiring and training to catch up with the backlog?

Richard




Isn't that the truth! Go read through some of the comments on that thread..... It was like I insulted a member of their family or something. They truly worship at the alter over there. I think those guys over there at "that other forum" run home from work every night and fondle themselves while they are cleaning their guns.



Some of my favorite comments from over there:
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Since when are you a firearms marketing executive who knows what Glock can or cannot do, and what markets they should be in? Glock can't keep up as it is, why change?


They don't cater to people like you who want a bunch of bull**** 'accessories' like extended releases, adjustable backstraps, and un-needed safeties. Those items just make a pistol less reliable.


Very few companies are in Glock's shoes. They have to 'upgrade' their guns with worthless crap to sell more. Look at the XD.


If you want the flavor of the month, try SiG.


How do you spell perfect pistol? G-L-O-C-K
How do you improve perfection?


XD clone it, try to make it better, failed. M&P tried, failed(and don't get me start with sigma). they all end up becoming a good pistols, but not better, therefore it's really much room to evolve.


Glock will evolve when the Shark evolves.


Great point about the aftermarket business as well.

As far as the back log is concerned, Those guys at "that other forum" are quick to throw out numbers of the 10s of thousands of units in back order, but I have yet to see any actual evidence of this. And as far as my own observations are concerned, there probably really isnt any back order of any kind. I mean, when was the last time you walked into a gun shop and didn't see any Glocks available for sale. Its not like you have to get on a wait list to buy one or anything. They are available everywhere.

And for the record - with regards to that guy who commented "Since when are you a firearms marketing executive who knows what Glock can or cannot do". I would just like to say, I do have a MBA and an undergraduates degree in business as well. So, I do know a thing or two about how things need to be done in the corporate world, and yes Glock is leaving money on the table.
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