TEaching the blind too shoot.

[Solus]

They are going to learn how to make point blank shots in a SD situation.  

That is the intent...to become familiar with indexing and making such a shot.  

I doubt the streets will run red with blood and that blind dudes will be shooting it out at the drop of a cane.

They will be learning the same things a sighted person would need to learn to deal with point blank shooting in a physical encounter.  The sighted person will not be able to see their gun nor where it is pointed.  The blind person who practices this technique and learns how to use it within their limits maybe be better prepared than the sighted person who has not.

[tombogan03884]

With the exceptions that sighted shooters learn to never point their muzzle at anything they don't intend to shoot, and ID their target and be aware of the background.
Since the blind are by definition incapable of the later they cannot avoid the former.
That leaves just 2 rules for them, all guns are always loaded and keep you booger hook off the bang switch.
And we've see how well that works even, (especially ? ) with Cops.

[Solus]

With the exceptions that sighted shooters learn to never point their muzzle at anything they don't intend to shoot, and ID their target and be aware of the background.
Since the blind are by definition incapable of the later they cannot avoid the former.
That leaves just 2 rules for them, all guns are always loaded and keep you booger hook off the bang switch.
And we've see how well that works even, (especially ? ) with Cops.

Since they can't fight at more than  contact distances, they can just keep the gun pointing down.  Since they can't see what is in front of them they will have no instinct to point it where they are looking..so it is pointed in perhaps the safest direction possible.

And, again, since it will be at point blank range when being physically attacked, they can ID the target as the person at the other end of the arms that are attacking them.  

They will not be doing room to room searches and with the their training to keep the gun pointed down unless in physical contact with an assailant, they will be far less likely to be sweeping living or non-living unintended targets...unless you count the floor.

Sure, they can panic and shoot at a noise, just like anyone can panic and shoot at sound or a movement.   But, I'd not be surprised if their hearing is more discerning in the dark than our vision is in the dark.

[Big Frank]

For someone who's not a professional trainer it's too much of a liability to train the blind to shoot.

[Solus]

For someone who's not a professional trainer it's too much of a liability to train the blind to shoot.

I would wonder how much liability there is if you are not doing it as a profession....but just out practicing with friends.

If I coach someone on how to shoot who is epileptic and they go into  seizure while holding the gun I had taught them to shoot and shot someone I don't think I would be liable even if I knew they were epileptic....of course that doesn't mean I wouldn't be sued but probably not charged.

As TAB said, they already shoot targets...he is just working out SD techniques with them.

[Sponsor]

[Solus]

I have no information on this thought, but it just came to me.

I'd not be surprised if a blind person was a safer gun handler than a sighted person.   A blind person, by nature and necessity, is going to be more cautious, aware and focused on their movements and actions than a sighted person. 

Every step will be more thought out and deliberate. 

With that I'd guess that they would handle a gun with the same deliberateness that they approach most other things.

 

[jnevis]

I would wonder how much liability there is if you are not doing it as a profession....but just out practicing with friends.

If I coach someone on how to shoot who is epileptic and they go into  seizure while holding the gun I had taught them to shoot and shot someone I don't think I would be liable even if I knew they were epileptic....of course that doesn't mean I wouldn't be sued but probably not charged.

As TAB said, they already shoot targets...he is just working out SD techniques with them.

That's what I'm getting at.  The blind person can justifiably shoot someone in a SD situation but TAB in this case is still liable to be sued for training them.  Showing someone how to shoot safely and teaching self-defense techniques are two wholy seperate levels of liability in the courts. Yes, in the epileptic example you could be charged with criminal negligence because you knew of the condition prior to handing them a weapon.  Would it go anywhere, probably not.  If you then moved to more "advanced" techniques without some level of documented training and/or certification you are REALLY opening a door for a prosecutor.  A professional instructor can fall back on a formalized lesson plan and put the responsibility to use what was taught back on the student.  Joe Blow teaching his buddy what he learned at Gunsite can't.  We did the same thing in EMS.  If you deviated from the "script" you opened yourself up for liability.  You couldn't just ask what you thought the right questions were.

[TAB]

The liabilty of a sd shooting does not worry me one bit and I always worry about liabilty. I will not be going  into extreme depths of sd,  thats not  some thing I do with any one other then my wife.   the fact is, people that are disabled( which a good number of the blind are not, they just can't see) are victimized at a higher rate then those that are not.    all I want out of this, is to give a option to a group of people that don't currently have it.