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Re: American Apathy?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 10:09:34 AM »
Americans, since the late 50's early 60's have been trained to be cowardly sheep.
It starts in school, back in those days if you were dealing with a bully you fought him, do that now and the whole school gets trauma counseling, the bully get a therapist and the kid who hit him back faces a SWAT team.

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Remember the stories of the kids at Va Tech who just stood there and did nothing while Cho took the time to reload  - stood and waited to be executed?

Columbine - hiding behind doors and under desks?

Aurora - running and screaming to the choke points?



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Re: American Apathy?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 01:38:29 PM »
Trying to alert the driver with his camera and managed to snap the picture  ???

Yea Riiiiiggggggghhhhht  >:(

This clown saw dollar signs in his future no matter what the outcome was  >:(

Good Samaritan Law:  Do no more and no less than you are qualified and able to do.

Protection from prosecution has also been used to prosecute in cases where people failed to act.  However, this is New York City, and the jerk on the tracks was seen gulping down a 48 oz full sugar soda pop minutes before the assault ... Serves him right!

I saw the photographer on TV this morning explaining what happened.

He said there was 20 to 22 seconds from the time the man was pushed onto the tracks to when the train hit him.  That is plenty of time for folks to have pulled him out...easy.

And even if he was trying to alert the engineer with the flash instead of getting the job done, that is the photographic equivalent of calling 911 to stop a rape you are witnessing.

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Re: American Apathy?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 11:50:34 AM »
An item just brought up in defense of the "photojournalist" is that "sometimes you can do more good and help more people by getting the picture than helping the individual."  Tell that to the family of this victim!
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Re: American Apathy?
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 12:16:28 PM »
The death of one man is a tragedy.
The deaths of millions is merely flushing the gene pool.

I heard a quote one time, couldn't tell you where, or who said it, but:

"Kill a few people and you're a murderer, kill a million, and you're a conqueror, go figure."
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Re: American Apathy?
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 12:37:48 PM »
JC, let's turn that around: "Save one life and you are a doctor. Save a million lives and you are a medic." Maybe a million is a little high, but no mention of journalists in any event.
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Re: American Apathy?
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Re: American Apathy?
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2012, 12:46:42 PM »
JC, let's turn that around: "Save one life and you are a doctor. Save a million lives and you are a medic." Maybe a million is a little high, but no mention of journalists in any event.

Good point. Too bad all the good doctors are now applying for their Real Estate licenses.  ::)
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Re: American Apathy?
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2012, 10:23:54 PM »
You'd be surprised how weak minded people are.  Look at the Milgram study.

I bet easily 90% of the US population is like that work ox with a ring in its nose and a yoke on its shoulders.

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Re: American Apathy?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2012, 12:46:49 PM »
It's sad most folks don't react but not everyone has that ability to react to the situation - fight or flight, most people will flight.. It happens all the time, look at the Aurora, CO. shootings, Columbine and others. In the theater shootings one guy stated the gunman was practically standing next to him while he laid on the floor. Why didn't he kick the guy in the family jewels? Jump up and knock him off balance? Again, not everyone has the ability to react to the situation.

Correct...but we here hear it all the time. It's all about Mindset.  

And as has been observed here and on other posts, most are not geared up to be living with that outlook.

Much of the reason, not blame because it is still each individual's responsibility for their thinking, is that our technology has allowed us to insulate ourselves from the harsh realities of nature.   We were able to stop fighting the environment tooth and  nail and, instead, we have "modified" the environment and have built a shield to keep it out.

What folks don't realize how thin and fragile that shield can be.  

My view..    "The world is a snarling beast waiting for an opening to be at your throat and clawing your guts."   And all it takes is some natural disaster, "flash mob", mugger or even a moment of carelessness to be in a struggle for your life.  Be ready for it.

Most folks aren't.  

"It's a jungle out there."   Tough but true reality is that for one organism to survive another must die.

As I've said before  "We survived because we became the most vicious, cunning, intelligent and dangerous animal on this planet.  Let us not forget our heritage."
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

 

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