IL to have CCW in 180 days -- LET THE BATTLE BEGIN

[wtr100]

Looks like Moore vs Madigan went the way we wanted it to

http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/NY0N98LM.pdf

Nows the time for the REAL battle to begin -

[MikeBjerum]

I can't get the link to work.  Is it just me?

[wtr100]

I can't get the link to work.  Is it just me?

no  they're being pummled with requests

From the ruling, page 20/21...

We are disinclined to engage in another round of historical
analysis to determine whether eighteenth-century
America understood the Second Amendment to include
a right to bear guns outside the home. The Supreme
Court has decided that the amendment confers
a right to bear arms for self-defense, which is as
important outside the home as inside. The theoretical
and empirical evidence (which overall is inconclusive)
is consistent with concluding that a right to
carry firearms in public may promote self-defense. Illinois
had to provide us with more than merely a rational basis
for believing that its uniquely sweeping ban is justified
by an increase in public safety. It has failed to meet
this burden. The Supreme Court’s interpretation of
the Second Amendment therefore compels us to reverse
the decisions in the two cases before us and remand
them to their respective district courts for the entry
of declarations of unconstitutionality and
permanent injunctions. Nevertheless we order our mandate
stayed for 180 days to allow the Illinois
legislature to craft a new gun law that will
impose reasonable limitations, consistent with the public
safety and the Second Amendment as interpreted in
this opinion, on the carrying of guns in public.

REVERSED AND REMANDED, WITH DIRECTIONS;
BUT MANDATE STAYED FOR 180 DAYS.

[tombogan03884]

About time they joined the other 49 states.

[wtr100]

http://isra.org/lawsuits/coa.pdf

also

7TH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS DIRECTS ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO PASS CONCEALED CARRY
BILL

BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT: 
The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals has rendered a decision in the Shepard/Moore v. Madigan
case that states that Illinois’ ban on concealed carry is unconstitutional.  The court
further directs the legislature to pass a concealed carry bill within 180 days.  Although
the announcement of this court ruling would appear to be good news for self-defense
advocates, it is really nothing more than the first volley in what will be a heated
battle to preserve and protect our gun rights.  The gun control movement, headed by
Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, will be introducing a concealed carry bill of
their own for the sole purpose of satisfying the court order.  Madigan’s bill is sure to
be a sham that will be so restrictive and impractical that only very
few Illinois citizens would even qualify for a carry permit – most citizens would remain
unprotected from criminals.  Information obtained from within the Madigan organization
indicates that the anti-gunners will piggyback an “assault weapons” ban and other onerous
gun control legislation on the concealed carry bill.  In order to prevent Madigan from
hijacking concealed carry, Illinois gun owners need to step up and let their voices be
heard on this issue.
HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET A GOOD CONCEALED CARRY BILL PASSED:
1.  Contact your State Representative and State Senator.  Politely advise them that you
are a law-abiding firearm owner and that you support the court of appeals decision in the
Shepard case.  Politely advise them that you want them to vote against any sham concealed
carry bill that Lisa Madigan will try to push.  Politely tell them that you want them to
vote for HB 148, the Family and Personal Protection Act.  Advise them that you will not
support any concealed carry bill that contains provisions that would discourage the
average citizen from seeking a carry permit such as exorbitant fees, impossible training
requirements, or excessive red tape.  Advise them that you will only support a “clean”
concealed carry bill that does not try to sneak through gun control schemes.  If you do
not know who your State Representative and/or State Senator is, please visit the Illinois
State Board of Elections website link here.
2.  Pass this alert along to your family and friends.  Encourage them to contact their
representatives as well.
3.  Post this alert to any and all internet blogs or bulletin boards to which you may
belong.

Forward this email to another Illinois Gun Owner!
http://ui.constantcontact.com/sa/fwtf.jsp?llr=86exi4bab&m=1101634704315&ea=p_oelkers%40netzero.com&a=1111837788967

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[BBJohnnyT]

Still much more to do.  Gun owners should not be satisfied until Open Carry and Concealed Carry without a permit are allowed in all 50 states.  The 2nd Amendment is a fundamental right the same as the rights acknowledged in the other Bill Of Rights Amendments.  People don't need to go through any government approval process or pay any fee to obtain a "speech" permit, do they?  What if citizens need to apply for a "exempt from unreasonable searches" permit?  That would be outrageous.  By requiring a permit to "bear arms", it diminishes a protected right to the status of a granted privilege.  And just as poll taxes were declared unconstitutional by the 24th Amendment, placing a fee or other prerequisite burden on a CCW permit that "allows" exercising a fundamental right is also IMO unconstitutional.

This basic tenet needs to be repeated over and over again until it becomes clearly understood.

[Tyler Durden]

The ball truly is in us pro-gunner's court.  I think we have the momentum.  I am hoping that whatever bill the pro-gun legislators draft also includes shall issue language, of course, but also castle doctrine and stand your ground legal language.

And while I am wishing for things I might as well ask for NFA items.  Suppressors and full auto's.  And SBS's.  Supposedly SBR's are going to be legal here in IL after Jan 1 if you jump through the ATF hoops and have a C&R FFL.

I would like to start my own business making suppressors.  At some point I envision having to move over to Missouri though.

[Magoo541]

Still much more to do.  Gun owners should not be satisfied until Open Carry and Concealed Carry without a permit are allowed in all 50 states.  The 2nd Amendment is a fundamental right the same as the rights acknowledged in the other Bill Of Rights Amendments.  People don't need to go through any government approval process or pay any fee to obtain a "speech" permit, do they?  What if citizens need to apply for a "exempt from unreasonable searches" permit?  That would be outrageous.  By requiring a permit to "bear arms", it diminishes a protected right to the status of a granted privilege.  And just as poll taxes were declared unconstitutional by the 24th Amendment, placing a fee or other prerequisite burden on a CCW permit that "allows" exercising a fundamental right is also IMO unconstitutional.

This basic tenet needs to be repeated over and over again until it becomes clearly understood.

One step at a time.  We didn't loose our 2A rights all at once, in fact it took almost 2 generations, and we won't get them all back at once.  That is why it is important to be a member of, and support financially, those organizations that fight for our 2A rights like the NRA and Second Amendment Foundation as well as state organizations.

[tombogan03884]

To quote the Brady's, "It's a good first step".