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More news you didn't hear about leftist Union tolerance
« on: December 13, 2012, 06:48:16 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/11/Union-Thugs-Shout-Down-Tea-Party-Counter-Protest-In-Lansing-Michigan?utm_source=e_breitbart_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+December+11%2C+2012&utm_campaign=20121211_m114668989_Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+December+11%2C+2012&utm_term=More

Just a few minutes into the demonstration against Michigan’s right to work legislation, Union loyalists show their disdain for free speech by instructing and shouting down members of the Tea Party on the steps of the Michigan State Capitol building. The incident occurred around 7:15 AM and was captured exclusively by Breitbart news.

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Saving the best for last

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/raw-footage-captures-union-activists-punching-attacking-conservative-writer/

TheBlaze reported earlier that alleged union activists had attacked a tent owned by the pro-right-to-work group Americans for Prosperity.

Now we have more footage of not only the attack on the tent, but also of alleged union activists physically attacking conservative writer and comedian Steven Crowder:
“They were tearing down the tent,” Crowder explained when TheBlaze asked him about the moments leading up to the violent exchange. “Now that sort of becomes a melee. They were trying to tear down the [AFP] tent and people were trying to pull them off … there were people in there. It’s their property.”

“And as they [the union activists] did that, a few people tripped,” he continued, “this guy tripped over a tent peg and then got up and hit me.”

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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/union-thugs-destroy-hot-dog-stand-of-alleged-romney-supporter-in-lansing-and-taunt-him-with-racial-slurs/

Editor’s note: Be sure to check out the update to this story below, which includes audio from Tarver explaining just what happened, including that two men in the tent entered with masks covering their faces.

A man running a local hot dog stand in Michigan’s state capital was among those attacked by protesters of the state’s “Right to Work” legislation while he served food in a tent that was torn down yesterday. The man was also allegedly taunted when he tried to salvage some of his property.

During Tuesday’s protests — the day Gov. Rick Snyder signed into law what he said is “pro-worker” legislation — the equipment Clint Tarver uses to run Clint’s Hot Dog Cart and Casual Catering was destroyed by people some have called “union thugs.”

According to the Lansing State Journal, Tarver was hired by the pro-Right-to-Work group Americans for Prosperity to serve hot dogs in the tent. TheBlaze reported about the tent’s destruction Tuesday — and how protesters were reportedly cutting up and distributing pieces of it as “souvenirs.”

Some of Tarver’s equipment used for his business were collateral damage in the protests. He recounted to the State Journal that he was trying to salvage some of it, but a friend of his told him “you gotta get out of here.”

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Re: More news you didn't hear about leftist Union tolerance
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 06:04:31 PM »
Left wing communist bigots.
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It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
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Re: More news you didn't hear about leftist Union tolerance
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 08:26:27 PM »
They always have been.
The very concept of "labor unions" comes from European socialism.
Guilds were intended to advance an industry, both labor and management.
Unions are intended to advance the Unions political power by setting up a self defeating adversarial relationship between the management providing the jobs and the laborers doing them at the expense of the customer.

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2012, 01:05:57 PM »
I'm certainly not trying to provoke an argument here but I find your comments about labor unions very offensive. I belong to the Steel Workers Union, I am a former US Marine and an NRA Member! To classify me as a communist is quite a stretch and very insulting. Let me tell you a little about the corporation I work for. For the year 2011 the CEO recieved an $8 million bonus while I was laid off from the end of October until the middle of March! At the end of November of this year the Corporation shut off our overtime as a cost cutting measure to ensure our CEO and various VP's and VIP's could get there Yearly bonus and make their bottom line at a time when according to our shipping figures we are having one of our best years ever. The same day that corporate shut off our OT as a cost cutting measure they had 40 brand new Dell computers delivered to our shop! And then told us that the "customary" $20 gift card to the local grocery store was going to be deferred until January! Presumably because the approximately $1500 they would cost the Corporation was just too expensive for a Multi Billion dollar global manufacturer!!!

If you have an employer that cares about its employees maybe a labor union isn't necessary. When you have an employer like mine???

Now, lets talk about right to work. My Local President told me just yesterday that he would have no problem if people in our shop didn't want to belong to the Union as long as he did not have to represent them and use Union dues to file labor grievances on their behalf. That is not the case though and right to work legislation is merely a ploy to try to break up the Unions. See above if you need a reminder of why my job needs the Union protection. And let me add that my employer has tried to fire an employee within the last 3 years for gettin hurt ON THE JOB. The employee's hand got caught in the machine and the corporation tried to have him fired. How about that for an outstanding employer?

Bottom line I belong to a Labor Union and am proud of it! I am also a gun owner and I served this country. Try to have your facts before you make such wide sweeping generalizations! And as a side note, my father worked for the same Union in the same plant for 40 years and he and my mother are as American as they come!

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2012, 02:02:07 PM »
I'm certainly not trying to provoke an argument here but I find your comments about labor unions very offensive. I belong to the Steel Workers Union, I am a former US Marine and an NRA Member! To classify me as a communist is quite a stretch and very insulting. Let me tell you a little about the corporation I work for. For the year 2011 the CEO recieved an $8 million bonus while I was laid off from the end of October until the middle of March! At the end of November of this year the Corporation shut off our overtime as a cost cutting measure to ensure our CEO and various VP's and VIP's could get there Yearly bonus and make their bottom line at a time when according to our shipping figures we are having one of our best years ever. The same day that corporate shut off our OT as a cost cutting measure they had 40 brand new Dell computers delivered to our shop! And then told us that the "customary" $20 gift card to the local grocery store was going to be deferred until January! Presumably because the approximately $1500 they would cost the Corporation was just too expensive for a Multi Billion dollar global manufacturer!!!

If you have an employer that cares about its employees maybe a labor union isn't necessary. When you have an employer like mine???

Now, lets talk about right to work. My Local President told me just yesterday that he would have no problem if people in our shop didn't want to belong to the Union as long as he did not have to represent them and use Union dues to file labor grievances on their behalf. That is not the case though and right to work legislation is merely a ploy to try to break up the Unions. See above if you need a reminder of why my job needs the Union protection. And let me add that my employer has tried to fire an employee within the last 3 years for gettin hurt ON THE JOB. The employee's hand got caught in the machine and the corporation tried to have him fired. How about that for an outstanding employer?

Bottom line I belong to a Labor Union and am proud of it! I am also a gun owner and I served this country. Try to have your facts before you make such wide sweeping generalizations! And as a side note, my father worked for the same Union in the same plant for 40 years and he and my mother are as American as they come!

This is gonna sound harsh.  Find another job.  If the employer is that bad, why do you continue to work for them?  Seriously.  Cake to look at?  Cake to eat!  Which do you want?  You are the one making the choice to enrich management and the corporation.  Once again, if you don't like the employer's practices, you have the choice and ability whether to work there or not.  Don't blame it on anyone in management.  Your status as an employee is a matter of choice.  Management uses those practices because they can.  When it comes to workers, it is a buyer market.  Get used to it, most likely your union helped get BHO re-elected.  He sure as hell isn't doing anything to improve the economy.

Don't want to quit?  Suck it up, and shut it up!  In my experience, the union I belonged to was only interested in how rapidly they could fill their pockets with my hard earned dollars.  Yeah, they raised dues, yearly,  and the Teamsters didn't get me a raise for 14 of those years.  I quit, found another job.

I'm a vet too.  USN.  I own a few firearms.  I am a member of the 16th native born generation of my family.  I am as American as they come too.  What does that have to do with Union thuggery?  What happened in Michigan can be called nothing else.
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Re: More news you didn't hear about leftist Union tolerance
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2012, 03:45:29 PM »
Regardless of how strongly one feels about unions, pro or con, there simply is no excuse for using violence to promote your beliefs. Protesting is an American tradition and a right. But damaging other people's property and persons is not. Only goons do that, no matter which side they are on. I fail to see where Michigan's RTW law deprives any union member of his job, livelihood, benefits or power to bargain collectively. It does reduce the overall monopolistic power of unions to subjugate non-union members by forcing them to pay dues. Every person in this country has the right to not join a union. Conversely, by not joining a union, that person does not necessarily benefit from the union's bargaining power. No one should argue that unions have not benefited the American worker, they have. Bur when unions dictate to all American workers by forcefully collecting dues, using those dues to elect politicians favorable to the union interests and causes but not necessarily non-union interests and causes, then that is going way too far. Living in MD opens one's eyes to the unusually high impact, both positive and negative, unions have on the people. When in high school, my son applied for a part-time job at the local Safeway. The union demanded he pay dues as a condition of employment, even though he would not be considered a union member and would not enjoy union benefits. Needless to say, he paid the dues but took away from that that unions are not necessarily beneficial to all workers. That sounds minor, but not to a high school student trying to learn the values of working and becoming a constructive member of society.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2012, 03:55:48 PM »
FBG, well said.  Succinct.  Accurate.  Right on the money.

My first job, some 50 years ago, was as a bag-boy for a supermarket.  I had to join RCIA Local 1428.

I excelled at bagging groceries to the extent that the manager promoted me to apprentice clerk and put me to work in the produce department. 

I worked about 10 hours a week making about $28 and the extra money helped both me and the family. 

I got about 2 weeks into the new job when the union guy showed up demanding $440 initiation fees because I was now an apprentice clerk.  I told him I didn't have that kind of money.  He said they could just take it out of my weekly pay for the next 12 weeks until it was paid off.

Working for nothing for three months didn't make a lot of sense to me.  I told the union guy I'd like to decline his offer.  Union guy walked straight into the manager's office and told him he'd have to fire me.  He did.  Said he couldn't risk any union  trouble even for a good, hard working employee.

I got a non-union job down the street at a Harbor Gas Station and have never joined another union.  I'm retired, now. Going to be 65 in a few months.  Little chance I'll change my mind about union thugs.

And Sean from Vermont, the company isn't there to give you a job.  You are there to do a job that satisfies them for a wage that satisfies you. They are there to make a profit, not to ensure you have a certain standard of living.  What management earns is the concern of the board members.  That, in a nutshell is the essence of capitalism.  To think you somehow deserve largess from management is the essence of communism.  If this offends you, it is not my intent.  But, I would suggest that you have been so indoctrinated with union BS that you do not recognize your belief system for what it actually is.  And as FBG said, if you don't think you are being fairly compensated for the work you do, leave.

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2012, 04:34:39 PM »
I guess, if the group of us could sit at a table and talk I could explain the points in my post. Not to change anyone's mind but just for clarity. We can't so I will leave this discussion. I have no desire to call names or be called names by someone who wouldn't say crap if they had a mouthful if we were sitting around a table. The Internet has created a lot of "brave" people.

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Re: More news you didn't hear about leftist Union tolerance
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2012, 04:54:12 PM »
..... as FBG said, if you don't think you are being fairly compensated for the work you do, leave.

Or better yet, start your own company and see what it takes t be successful.
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Re: More news you didn't hear about leftist Union tolerance
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2012, 05:08:24 PM »
Sean, it has been my experience here that all of us are opinionated. None of us hesitates to speak our mind. None of us would hesitate to do so if we were sitting around the table looking you and the others in the face. I have found no cowards in this bunch nor do I take offense when they tell me to go fly a kite (usually not so kindly worded, haha). Stick around and speak your mind. i don't know how long you have been with us but i find the mix of young and old, experienced shooters and novices, workers (plus those looking for work) and retirees to be exciting. I hope you will too. There's a lot here to enjoy. The more you participate the better we get to know you and vice versa.
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