Cerberus to sell stake in Bushmaster

[MikeBjerum]

This is when we reply with our money. I hope no one will buy them as they have become insignifficant. There are plenty of companies that sell similar products  to buy from. The answer is to not buy from them period support the competition with your money odds are you will end up with a better product.
Mike Mc

I don't know where you are going to find a significantly better product than the Bushmaster or DPMS.  I would love to see these companies move back into private ownership.  Prior to the investment folk coming in you could run up to St. Cloud, stop at DelTone play with guns, and they they took you over to DPMS to see more options, tour the plant, and buy one.

[billt]

This is when we reply with our money. I hope no one will buy them as they have become insignifficant. There are plenty of companies that sell similar products  to buy from. The answer is to not buy from them period support the competition with your money odds are you will end up with a better product.
Mike Mc

If you are referring to Bushmaster and DPMS, and you think they are "insignificant", you are sorely ill informed. Both Bushmaster and DPMS have a very large portion of the AR-15 rifle market. They make a good product that a lot of shooters and police departments are very satisfied with. I've never understood shooters that call for boycotts of gun manufacturers. That's just plain nuts. We went through this nonsense with Ruger and Smith & Wesson in their past, and it went nowhere. Both companies are thriving....Thank God.

Cerberus Capitol Management is a holding company. Nothing more, nothing less. Most gun manufacturers are owned by holding companies at one time or another. Smith & Wesson was owned by Bangor Punta, Lear Siegler, and finally Tompkins PLC before it was sold to Safe-T-Hammer. Bushmaster was started and thrived under Richard Dyke. Now it's owned, and on the block for Cerberus. Believe it or not, certain divisions of Colt were owned at one time by Pratt & Whitney. None of this is anything new. If you want to get pissed at something or someone, do it at Dianne Feinstein and Michael Bloomberg. They're out to ream you, along with your rights far more than Bushmaster, DPMS, or whoever owns them, whenever they happen to own them, are ever going to.

[tombogan03884]

If you are referring to Bushmaster and DPMS, and you think they are "insignificant", you are sorely ill informed. Both Bushmaster and DPMS have a very large portion of the AR-15 rifle market. They make a good product that a lot of shooters and police departments are very satisfied with. I've never understood shooters that call for boycotts of gun manufacturers. That's just plain nuts. We went through this nonsense with Ruger and Smith & Wesson in their past, and it went nowhere. Both companies are thriving....Thank God.

Cerberus Capitol Management is a holding company. Nothing more, nothing less. Most gun manufacturers are owned by holding companies at one time or another. Smith & Wesson was owned by Bangor Punta, Lear Siegler, and finally Tompkins PLC before it was sold to Safe-T-Hammer. Bushmaster was started and thrived under Richard Dyke. Now it's owned, and on the block for Cerberus. Believe it or not, certain divisions of Colt were owned at one time by Pratt & Whitney. None of this is anything new. If you want to get pissed at something, do it at Dianne Feinstein and Michael Bloomberg. They're out to ream you, along with your rights far more than Bushmaster, DPMS, or whoever owns them, whenever they happen to own them, are ever going to.

Which is really ironic since Francis Pratt,a great gun designer , as well as maker, learned his trade working at Colt .

[Ksail101]

So funny they are stopping now after making so much money the 4 years that they have owned it or whatever it is. They bought a bunch of gun companies a few years ago I remember. Don't know the exact extent but they have made a ton of money off ARs. I also laugh at the reinstallation of the AWB. They cats out of the bag. How many ARs and Aks are out there now. If they are the problem well going to be forever cause anyone that wants one. Has one or one on order. Just all a knee jerk joke.

Saw a columbine student on tv today. Why? So some guy that lives 10 miles from the school on today also. Why? Just keep feeding the next sicko out there more confidence in him becoming a saint to the media.

[tombogan03884]

You need to remember that Cerberus owned 51% of GM and most of Chrysler when Obama nationalized the auto industry.
They probably want to get out before another executive order seizes more of their assets in uncompensated confiscation.

[Sponsor]

[Swamp Yankee]

There are many companies that produce better or equivilent AR's than DPMS and Bushmaster. Stag Arms, Doublestar,Palmeto State Armory, Les Bear, Daniels Defense, Colt, FN, Ruger, Sig Saur, Delton. The list goes on it all is a matter of price and preference. So yes I stand by insignificant as there are plenty of companies to fill the void left by them. As far as boycotting damn straight I will till they are owned by someone else.

[billt]

So funny they are stopping now after making so much money the 4 years that they have owned it or whatever it is. They bought a bunch of gun companies a few years ago I remember. Don't know the exact extent but they have made a ton of money off ARs.

How is it "funny"? Investors do this all the time. They are not "loyal" to companies. They buy them when there is a profit to be made, and dump them when they feel there isn't. The sad fact of the matter is the risk of them being all but put out of business by our liberal, Democratic government, is one hell of a motivating factor in their decision. Companies who produce AR-15 rifles will be all but worthless if a sweeping ban goes through. And even if it doesn't this time, there will be a next time. You can count on it.

[billt]

As far as boycotting damn straight I will till they are owned by someone else.

If this ban goes through, you'll get your wish. They will be put out of business, along with most, if not all of the companies you mention. Then you can throw your party.

[santahog]

I hope a group of clever young engineers are in a Waffle House somewhere, designing the next industry standard, that Washington can't fit into their D.C. definitions of the Boogie Man du jour...
Make it a good one. Accurate, cheap to operate, buy and shoot and reliable as all get-out, and of course, effective..

[Magoo541]

I hope a group of clever young engineers are in a Waffle House somewhere, designing the next industry standard, that Washington can't fit into their D.C. definitions of the Boogie Man du jour...
Make it a good one. Accurate, cheap to operate, buy and shoot and reliable as all get-out, and of course, effective..

Being a cog, or two in that design machine, as I read it and an old hot rod phrase came to mind.   You can have it fast, cheap or quick pick any two 

Glock raised the bar in firearms development and it has since been raised by other manufacturers.  I've seen some interesting ideas on firearm development but its all been tried before.  Much like reinventing the wheel, the car or the airplane outside the box isn't even adequate you have to be in a different dimension.

The best hope for what you are looking for are the open source 3D printed guns that are in development which would effectively put firearms in everyone's hands once 3D printers are commonly available.  They can't outlaw what doesn't exist until it exist and as flexible as the design process is they would never be able to keep up short of outlawing all manufacturing equipment.