Feinstein says "move semi-autos to NFA"

[alfsauve]

Fienstein and others are setting bargaining positions from which to work.  Maybe No-Grandfathering and NFA won't work, but they're willing to work from there down.

What's our position?  Status Quo?  We loose.   It's why we've lost in the past.

The antis have made it clear there end-game is ZERO guns in private hands.  ZERO.  NADA.  The Washington Times even said it in 2004.  The AWB may not really do any good, but it's a stepping stone towards more gun control.  (paraphrase)

So our position should be roll back of NFA and everything since.   We'll work on bargaining from there.....for the time being.




And no I don't think we should use celebrities.  We need to make new celebrities out of those who've been there.  Those who've defended themselves and others.   That's who Fluke was, an "every women" (at least in the liberals eyes) whom they made into a celebrity.

[billt]

I just came from Cabela's. It looks like they had a robbery. Everything is picked clean! I've never seen the place in that bad of shape since they opened it back in 2006.

[PegLeg45]

Fienstein and others are setting bargaining positions from which to work.  Maybe No-Grandfathering and NFA won't work, but they're willing to work from there down.

What's our position?  Status Quo?  We loose.   It's why we've lost in the past.

The antis have made it clear there end-game is ZERO guns in private hands.  ZERO.  NADA.  The Washington Times even said it in 2004.  The AWB may not really do any good, but it's a stepping stone towards more gun control.  (paraphrase)

So our position should be roll back of NFA and everything since.   We'll work on bargaining from there.....for the time being.




And no I don't think we should use celebrities.  We need to make new celebrities out of those who've been there.  Those who've defended themselves and others.   That's who Fluke was, an "every women" (at least in the liberals eyes) whom they made into a celebrity.

I agree with Alf (on all of it, but particularly on the tactics in red).
While having the support of as many celebs as possible won't hurt, the NRA and gun groups need to put the main focus on common every day folks who have used guns in a positive light for protection. The NRA needs to use this sudden extra income from new members to send a film team to some of the folks (who may be willing) that get written up in the Armed Citizen column each month. Bombard America with the real facts that people every day use legal guns to protect themselves.

[kmitch200]

It won't happen. That would spell disaster at the polls worse than a "Grandfathered" ban would, for any Senator or Congressman who voted for it. Many people have extensive collections of these weapons. Raping $200.00 out of the pockets of citizens for every one of them they own, would all but cause riots. Not to mention bog down the ATF with a mountain of paperwork. You're going to be hearing a lot of this type of idiotic talk coming from liberals in the next several months.

What do you think the chances are of it staying at $200?
I wouldn't put it past them to make it $2,000 or $20,000 for an NFA item, seeing that the $200 tax was prohibitive in '34. 

[billt]

What do you think the chances are of it staying at $200?
I wouldn't put it past them to make it $2,000 or $20,000 for an NFA item, seeing that the $200 tax was prohibitive in '34. 

If they do, this whole thing will go to guns before it's over.

[Sponsor]

[Jrlobo]

SCOTUS gave them the way to do this. Call it a fee. Have NICS and state police departments send a '1099' report to the IRS for every new gun purchase and for every gun purchase record yet to be destroyed. Let the IRS collect the fees via your 1040. That way they would lay the groundwork to fee you every year you own the gun. It also will help insure that you transfer the gun properly when you sell it, just so you are no longer liable for the fee on it. Hmmm, I think the Obamacareless process works that way too. I wonder if they will let us gun owners to get our own tattoos on our arms with our IRS/Gun registration numbers? And, when you protest to the SCOTUS, CJ Roberts will say it is all constitutional because it's really a tax under the commerce clause, but the tattoos will have to go.

[TAB]

That would take hundreds if not thousands of man YEARS.  To complete all that paper work.

[jnevis]

That would take hundreds if not thousands of man YEARS.  To complete all that paper work.

So ATF and IRS starts hiring again. Nothing like an army of minimum wage federal employees handling your taxes.   

[tombogan03884]

So ATF and IRS starts hiring again. Nothing like an army of minimum wage federal employees handling your taxes.   

Looks good on the unemployment numbers as well.

Fienstein and others are setting bargaining positions from which to work.  Maybe No-Grandfathering and NFA won't work, but they're willing to work from there down.

What's our position?  Status Quo?  We loose.   It's why we've lost in the past.

The antis have made it clear there end-game is ZERO guns in private hands.  ZERO.  NADA.  The Washington Times even said it in 2004.  The AWB may not really do any good, but it's a stepping stone towards more gun control.  (paraphrase)

So our position should be roll back of NFA and everything since.   We'll work on bargaining from there.....for the time being.




And no I don't think we should use celebrities.  We need to make new celebrities out of those who've been there.  Those who've defended themselves and others.   That's who Fluke was, an "every women" (at least in the liberals eyes) whom they made into a celebrity.

That's what I've been talking about .
We have the numbers in members of the public who stand to lose several hundred $ worth of real property if we let the antis win.
All we need is aggressive leadership who have vision and the will to win.
You want to keep machine guns registered ?
OK, but it will cost you passage of nation wide CCW.
You want to keep registering SBR's ?
OK, but only if you allow import of the South Korean M1's
You want to keep the machine gun registry closed ?
Only if you remove silencers from the NFA, hearing protection is a health issue, it's for the children.

[Tyler Durden]