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Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« on: December 28, 2012, 11:39:30 AM »
Arizona Attorney General is pushing for a minimum of one armed staff member in each school.  They are also paying for training in concealed carry for any teacher that wishes.
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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 12:51:44 PM »
My S-I-L was just talking about this at Christmas. Have a gun in a locker that is accessible if needed. I think two authorized people would be better, or even 5 if the gun is in a locker. Gives the staff more of a chance to get to the weapon and accounts for sick days, etc.
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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 01:02:13 PM »
I believe that as this progresses it will take common sense twists to allowing approved and trained staff to carry.  I found it interesting that they are willing to pay up to $600 per person for any school staff that wants, but talking about only one staff member per school with a firearm or firearm access.

Wait and see, but so far it is a positive move.
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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 01:12:14 PM »
Having the pistol in an unmonitored locker opens the potential for theft.
On body carry for teachers who have valid CCW costs the school nothing and assures that the fire arm is accountable at all times.

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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 02:20:14 PM »
Yeah, but On-body carry is too scary and meets with heavy resistance. Two Gunvaults mounted out-of-the-way would make the weapons reasonably secure but available...like a fire extinguisher.  It doesn't do anything for CCW laws, but I think it's a workable idea and worth trying, because unlike the gungrabbers I am actually interested in protecting kids in school.
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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 02:23:49 PM »
CCW is the safest and best plan, and we must not give on that.  Unless they are going to have vaults with ready handguns every place these staffers go in the building it is line the carry gun that never leaves the storage place at home.  Not with you is like not at all!
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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 02:54:22 PM »
CCW is the safest and best plan, and we must not give on that.  Unless they are going to have vaults with ready handguns every place these staffers go in the building it is line the carry gun that never leaves the storage place at home.  Not with you is like not at all!

I agree that it is the best way, but if locked up guns gets them into the schools legally it is moving in the right direction.

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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 03:13:10 PM »
I agree that it is the best way, but if locked up guns gets them into the schools legally it is moving in the right direction.

While I sota agree, it's going to take another tragedy for one of two things to happen.

1. The libs say that a gun in the closet didn't work. take it out.
2. Keeping it in the closet didn't work so put it on body.

Which do you think is most likely. Either way it'll take another tragedy.
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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2012, 03:40:53 PM »
I know that we are already viewed as extreme and over the top, but we need to remember that the two main groups getting places, abortion rights and homosexual rights, have both told us that we are too quiet and compromising.  We need to stay strong and loud in our demands.  We need to hammer them with facts and not let up!

It is Solus suggestion that has gotten us to the point we are in today with regulations and bans.  Since 1934 we have bargained our rights away in the name of compromise, and all the time we have let them label us as extreme and unreasonable.

ENOUGH !!!

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Re: Arizona Is On The Right Track ... Again!
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2012, 04:21:39 PM »
I know that we are already viewed as extreme and over the top, but we need to remember that the two main groups getting places, abortion rights and homosexual rights, have both told us that we are too quiet and compromising.  We need to stay strong and loud in our demands.  We need to hammer them with facts and not let up!

It is Solus suggestion that has gotten us to the point we are in today with regulations and bans.  Since 1934 we have bargained our rights away in the name of compromise, and all the time we have let them label us as extreme and unreasonable.

ENOUGH !!!

I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!

You are right only if you shut up and go away after the first step.

Instead, keep pushing....cops in schools don't have their weapons locked up.   Guns being locked up in the school didn't bring the walls down or bolts of lightening from the sky. 

Every legislation session push to have to move to where it should be..

I look at some of the AWB stuff put out there and am glad they are looking for everything at once.   Either confiscation or $200 stamp for every semi-auto.  Asking for all that at once is the best way to lose.
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