Fight or lie down and surrender.

[Jrlobo]

I won't be popular for saying this, but here goes. This is the time for all of us to fight against government and public efforts to deny us God-given rights using all civil means possible. Raising our voices of discontent, protesting in media and public, supporting those organizations that are protesting on our behalf and other traditional means are acceptable. Let the government overplay its hand, e.g. another Ruby Ridge or Waco, and that will be a catalyst to turn the tables to our side. When, if, the government goes that far will be the "one if by sea, two if by land" signal some await. To declare rebellion piecemeal is to set oneself up to be the next Ruby Ridge. This, in my mind, is very premature at this stage. We must also recognize that there are many people who will be sympathetic to our cause, but will not be in a position to mouth off about it. These can be very useful people, many of whom will be in positions of federal, state and local government, and can enable our efforts. They need to eat and feed their families just like we do (the movie "The Patriot" comes to mind and they will join when the time is right for them). But until that time, they will sound like pacifists or even non-sympathizers!

Without advocating armed rebellion, there some things that need to be done first. We must organize our civil resistance by attracting leaders who the people recognize and respect. Some former members of the military come to mind, like Petraeus and McChrystal, and some former congressmen and senators or campaign managers who know how to organize people and develop grass roots movements. Once that political organization is formed (opposition would call it Sinn Fein) then the movement can mobilize its forces to combat efforts to take our rights and have an intelligence arm that anticipates the oppositions every move (not that they don't forecast it).

Armed rebellion is the absolute last thing that should be attempted and never piecemeal, unless you want to die alone in your East Tennessee redoubt and perhaps watch as your wife and kids are killed first...our government has proven it is not above that. Our general population has proven it is willing to stand by and watch.

So, my advice is get organized first, establish a civil political front and attract real leaders and the populace will follow. Stay out of prison and stay alive, because if the rebellion comes as a last resort, you will be useless to us if you aren't there. Until then, perhaps do not identify yourselves lest you be taken care of, know what I'm sayin?

End of high horse. Okay have at me.

[tombogan03884]

A national movement needs to be formed by local organizations reaching out to one another, Committees of Correspondence style.
It needs to be done with the full understanding that no entirely peaceful group has ever changed a Govt.
When you speak of Sinn Fein you refer to only one prong of a two pronged approach .
Even Martin Luther King, He may have preached nonviolence, but he did it with the thought of the Black Panthers always hovering in the background.